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1*39edc4a9SbosticFrom: James A. Woods <jaw@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
2*39edc4a9Sbostic
3*39edc4a9Sbostic>From vn Fri Dec  2 18:05:27 1988
4*39edc4a9SbosticSubject: Re: Looking for C source for RSA
5*39edc4a9SbosticNewsgroups: sci.crypt
6*39edc4a9Sbostic
7*39edc4a9Sbostic# Illegitimi noncarborundum
8*39edc4a9Sbostic
9*39edc4a9SbosticPatents are a tar pit.
10*39edc4a9Sbostic
11*39edc4a9SbosticA good case can be made that most are just a license to sue, and nothing
12*39edc4a9Sbosticis illegal until a patent is upheld in court.
13*39edc4a9Sbostic
14*39edc4a9SbosticFor example, if you receive netnews by means other than 'nntp',
15*39edc4a9Sbosticthese very words are being modulated by 'compress',
16*39edc4a9Sbostica variation on the patented Lempel-Ziv-Welch algorithm.
17*39edc4a9Sbostic
18*39edc4a9SbosticOriginal Ziv-Lempel is patent number 4,464,650, and the more powerful
19*39edc4a9SbosticLZW method is #4,558,302.  Yet despite any similarities between 'compress'
20*39edc4a9Sbosticand LZW (the public-domain 'compress' code was designed and given to the
21*39edc4a9Sbosticworld before the ink on the Welch patent was dry), no attorneys from Sperry
22*39edc4a9Sbostic(the assignee) have asked you to unplug your Usenet connection.
23*39edc4a9Sbostic
24*39edc4a9SbosticWhy?  I can't speak for them, but it is possible the claims are too broad,
25*39edc4a9Sbosticor, just as bad, not broad enough.  ('compress' does things not mentioned
26*39edc4a9Sbosticin the Welch patent.)  Maybe they realize that they can commercialize
27*39edc4a9SbosticLZW better by selling hardware implementations rather than by licensing
28*39edc4a9Sbosticsoftware.  Again, the LZW software delineated in the patent is *not*
29*39edc4a9Sbosticthe same as that of 'compress'.
30*39edc4a9Sbostic
31*39edc4a9SbosticAt any rate, court-tested software patents are a different animal;
32*39edc4a9Sbosticcorporate patents in a portfolio are usually traded like baseball cards
33*39edc4a9Sbosticto shut out small fry rather than actually be defended before
34*39edc4a9Sbosticnon-technical juries.  Perhaps RSA will undergo this test successfully,
35*39edc4a9Sbosticalthough the grant to "exclude others from making, using, or selling"
36*39edc4a9Sbosticthe invention would then only apply to the U.S. (witness the
37*39edc4a9SbosticGenentech patent of the TPA molecule in the U.S. but struck down
38*39edc4a9Sbosticin Great Britain as too broad.)
39*39edc4a9Sbostic
40*39edc4a9SbosticThe concept is still exotic for those who learned in school the rule of thumb
41*39edc4a9Sbosticthat one may patent "apparatus" but not an "idea".
42*39edc4a9SbosticApparently this all changed in Diamond v. Diehr (1981) when the U. S. Supreme
43*39edc4a9SbosticCourt reversed itself.
44*39edc4a9Sbostic
45*39edc4a9SbosticScholars should consult the excellent article in the Washington and Lee
46*39edc4a9SbosticLaw Review (fall 1984, vol. 41, no. 4) by Anthony and Colwell for a
47*39edc4a9Sbosticcomprehensive survey of an area which will remain murky for some time.
48*39edc4a9Sbostic
49*39edc4a9SbosticUntil the dust clears, how you approach ideas which are patented depends
50*39edc4a9Sbosticon how paranoid you are of a legal onslaught.  Arbitrary?  Yes.  But
51*39edc4a9Sbosticthe patent bar the the CCPA (Court of Customs and Patent Appeals)
52*39edc4a9Sbosticthanks you for any uncertainty as they, at least, stand to gain
53*39edc4a9Sbosticfrom any trouble.
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56*39edc4a9SbosticFrom: James A. Woods <jaw@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
57*39edc4a9SbosticSubject: Re: Looking for C source for RSA (actually 'compress' patents)
58*39edc4a9Sbostic
59*39edc4a9Sbostic	In article <2042@eos.UUCP> you write:
60*39edc4a9Sbostic	>The concept is still exotic for those who learned in school the rule of thumb
61*39edc4a9Sbostic	>that one may patent "apparatus" but not an "idea".
62*39edc4a9Sbostic
63*39edc4a9SbosticA rule of thumb that has never been completely valid, as any chemical
64*39edc4a9Sbosticengineer can tell you.  (Chemical processes were among the earliest patents,
65*39edc4a9Sbosticas I recall.)
66*39edc4a9Sbostic
67*39edc4a9Sbostic	ah yes -- i date myself when relaying out-of-date advice from elderly
68*39edc4a9Sbostic	attorneys who don't even specialize in patents.  one other interesting
69*39edc4a9Sbostic	class of patents include the output of optical lens design programs,
70*39edc4a9Sbostic	which yield formulae which can then fairly directly can be molded
71*39edc4a9Sbostic	into glass.  although there are restrictions on patenting equations,
72*39edc4a9Sbostic	the "embedded systems" seem to fly past the legal gauntlets.
73*39edc4a9Sbostic
74*39edc4a9Sbostic	anyway, i'm still learning about intellectual property law after
75*39edc4a9Sbostic	several conversations from a unisys (nee sperry) lawyer re 'compress'.
76*39edc4a9Sbostic
77*39edc4a9Sbostic	it's more complicated than this, but they're letting (oral
78*39edc4a9Sbostic	communication only) software versions of 'compress' slide
79*39edc4a9Sbostic	as far as licensing fees go.  this includes 'arc', 'stuffit',
80*39edc4a9Sbostic	and other commercial wrappers for 'compress'.  yet they are
81*39edc4a9Sbostic	signing up licensees for hardware chips.  hewlett-packard
82*39edc4a9Sbostic	supposedly has an active vlsi project, and unisys has
83*39edc4a9Sbostic	board-level lzw-based tape controllers.  (to build lzw into
84*39edc4a9Sbostic	a disk controller would be strange, as you'd have to build
85*39edc4a9Sbostic	in a filesystem too!)
86*39edc4a9Sbostic
87*39edc4a9Sbostic 	it's byzantine
88*39edc4a9Sbostic	that unisys is in a tiff with hp regarding the patents,
89*39edc4a9Sbostic	after discovering some sort of "compress" button on some
90*39edc4a9Sbostic	hp terminal product.  why?  well, professor abraham lempel jumped
91*39edc4a9Sbostic	from being department chairman of computer science at technion in
92*39edc4a9Sbostic	israel to sperry (where he got the first patent), but then to work
93*39edc4a9Sbostic	at hewlett-packard on sabbatical.  the second welch patent
94*39edc4a9Sbostic	is only weakly derivative of the first, so they want chip
95*39edc4a9Sbostic	licenses and hp relented.  however, everyone agrees something
96*39edc4a9Sbostic	like the current unix implementation is the way to go with
97*39edc4a9Sbostic	software, so hp (and ucb) long ago asked spencer thomas and i to sign
98*39edc4a9Sbostic	off on copyright permission (although they didn't need to, it being pd).
99*39edc4a9Sbostic	lempel, hp, and unisys grumbles they can't make money off the
100*39edc4a9Sbostic	software since a good free implementation (not the best --
101*39edc4a9Sbostic	i have more ideas!) escaped via usenet.  (lempel's own pascal
102*39edc4a9Sbostic	code was apparently horribly slow.)
103*39edc4a9Sbostic	i don't follow the ibm 'arc' legal bickering; my impression
104*39edc4a9Sbostic	is that the pc folks are making money off the archiver/wrapper
105*39edc4a9Sbostic	look/feel of the thing [if ms-dos can be said to have a look and feel].
106*39edc4a9Sbostic
107*39edc4a9Sbostic	now where is telebit with the compress firmware?  in a limbo
108*39edc4a9Sbostic	netherworld, probably, with sperry still welcoming outfits
109*39edc4a9Sbostic	to sign patent licenses, a common tactic to bring other small fry
110*39edc4a9Sbostic	into the fold.  the guy who crammed 12-bit compess into the modem
111*39edc4a9Sbostic	there left.  also what is transpiring with 'compress' and sys 5 rel 4?
112*39edc4a9Sbostic	beats me, but if sperry got a hold of them on these issues,
113*39edc4a9Sbostic	at&t would likely re-implement another algorithm if they
114*39edc4a9Sbostic	thought 'compress' infringes.  needful to say, i don't think
115*39edc4a9Sbostic	it does after the abovementioned legal conversation.
116*39edc4a9Sbostic	my own beliefs on whether algorithms should be patentable at all
117*39edc4a9Sbostic	change with the weather.  if the courts finally nail down
118*39edc4a9Sbostic	patent protection for algorithms, academic publication in
119*39edc4a9Sbostic	textbooks will be somewhat at odds with the engineering world,
120*39edc4a9Sbostic	where the textbook codes will simply be a big tease to get
121*39edc4a9Sbostic	money into the patent holder coffers...
122*39edc4a9Sbostic
123*39edc4a9Sbostic	oh, if you implement lzw from the patent, you won't get
124*39edc4a9Sbostic	good rates because it doesn't mention adaptive table reset,
125*39edc4a9Sbostic	lack thereof being *the* serious deficiency of thomas' first version.
126*39edc4a9Sbostic
127*39edc4a9Sbostic	now i know that patent law generally protects against independent
128*39edc4a9Sbostic	re-invention (like the 'xor' hash function pleasantly mentioned
129*39edc4a9Sbostic	in the patent [but not the paper]).
130*39edc4a9Sbostic	but the upshot is that if anyone ever wanted to sue us,
131*39edc4a9Sbostic	we're partially covered with
132*39edc4a9Sbostic	independently-developed twists, plus the fact that some of us work
133*39edc4a9Sbostic	in a bureacratic morass (as contractor to a public agency in my case).
134*39edc4a9Sbostic
135*39edc4a9Sbostic	quite a mess, huh?  i've wanted to tell someone this stuff
136*39edc4a9Sbostic	for a long time, for posterity if nothing else.
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138*39edc4a9Sbosticjames
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