1WTNT45 KNHC 221452
2TCDAT5
3
4TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN DISCUSSION NUMBER   1
5NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL102012
61100 AM AST WED AUG 22 2012
7
8SATELLITE DATA INDICATE THAT THE LOW PRESSURE AREA LOCATED OVER THE
9EASTERN TROPICAL ATLANTIC HAS DEVELOPED A WELL-DEFINED SURFACE
10CIRCULATION AND SUFFICIENT CONVECTIVE ORGANIZATION TO BE DESIGNATED
11AS A TROPICAL DEPRESSION. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB
12AND SAB ARE BOTH 2.0...AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 30KT.
13GIVEN THE FAVORABLE UPPER-AIR ENVIRONMENT AHEAD OF THE DEPRESSION
14DURING THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS...SOME INTENSIFICATION IS EXPECTED. AFTER
15THAT TIME...THE INTENSITY WILL DEPEND IN LARGE PART ON HOW MUCH THE
16DEPRESSION BECOMES INVOLVED WITH AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW NORTHEAST OF
17THE LESSER ANTILLES IN ABOUT 3 DAYS AND THE INFLUENCE OF THE
18UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW FROM TROPICAL STORM ISAAC LATE IN THE FORECAST
19PERIOD.  INTERACTIONS WITH EITHER WOULD RESULT IN AN INCREASE OF
20VERTICAL WIND SHEAR OVER THE CYCLONE AND A POSSIBLE HALT IN
21INTENSIFICATION. FOR NOW...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS THE
22INTENSITY CONSENSUS AIDS.
23
24THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 295/14.  THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED
25TO CONTINUE MOVING WEST-NORTHWESTWARD...NEARLY IN TANDEM WITH A
26MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL IMPULSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A SUBTROPICAL
27RIDGE OVER EASTERN/CENTRAL ATLANTIC. AFTER ABOUT 3 DAYS...THE
28CYCLONE SHOULD TURN NORTHWESTWARD AS IT REACHES THE WESTERN
29PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE. THE SPREAD IN THE TRACK
30GUIDANCE INCREASES CONSIDERABLY BY THE END OF THE FORECAST
31PERIOD...WITH THE GFS FORECASTING A DEEPER SYSTEM THAT TURNS
32MORE QUICKLY.  THE HWRF SHOWS A SHALLOWER VORTEX THAT MOVES ON A
33MORE WESTWARD TRACK. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST LIES BETWEEN THESE TWO
34EXTREMES...CLOSE TO THE ECMWF AND THE MODEL CONSENSUS TVCA.
35
36
37FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
38
39INIT  22/1500Z 12.4N  36.3W   30 KT  35 MPH
40 12H  23/0000Z 13.3N  38.1W   40 KT  45 MPH
41 24H  23/1200Z 14.3N  40.8W   45 KT  50 MPH
42 36H  24/0000Z 15.2N  43.6W   50 KT  60 MPH
43 48H  24/1200Z 16.2N  46.3W   55 KT  65 MPH
44 72H  25/1200Z 18.5N  52.0W   55 KT  65 MPH
45 96H  26/1200Z 21.8N  58.0W   55 KT  65 MPH
46120H  27/1200Z 26.0N  64.0W   60 KT  70 MPH
47
48$$
49FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN/ZELINSKY
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51
52WTNT45 KNHC 222041
53TCDAT5
54
55TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN DISCUSSION NUMBER   2
56NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL102012
57500 PM AST WED AUG 22 2012
58
59SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THAT TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN HAS NOT
60BECOME ANY BETTER ORGANIZED...AND CLOUD TOPS ARE WARMING...POSSIBLY
61COINCIDING WITH THE DIURNAL MINIMUM. FURTHERMORE...THE LOW-LEVEL
62CENTER HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO LOCATE AND MAY BE SOMEWHAT ELONGATED.
63SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB REMAIN AT 2.0...AND
64THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS HELD AT 30 KT.
65
66THE TROPICAL CYCLONE CONTINUES TO MOVE TO THE WEST-NORTHWEST...AND
67THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 295/14...HOWEVER THIS IS HIGHLY
68UNCERTAIN DUE TO DIFFICULTY IN LOCATING THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER. THIS
69GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE AS THE DEPRESSION MOVES
70TOWARD A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL WEAKNESS IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE OVER
71THE NEXT 3 DAYS. AFTER THAT TIME...A TURN TO THE NORTHWEST IS
72EXPECTED AS A DEEP-LAYER TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN U.S. CAUSES THE
73RIDGE TO RETREAT AND THE TROPICAL CYCLONE REACHES THE EDGE OF THE
74RIDGE.  THE TRACK HAS BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT...AND IS
75CLOSE TO THE ECMWF AND THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS.
76
77THE UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW FROM TROPICAL STORM ISAAC...AND THE FLOW
78ASSOCIATED WITH AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH LOCATED OVER THE CENTRAL NORTH
79ATLANTIC...ARE DISTORTING THE OUTFLOW OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION NINE
80INTO A NORTH-SOUTH ORIENTATION.  IN THE SHORT TERM...THE VERTICAL
81WIND SHEAR IS FORECAST TO REMAIN SOMEWHAT WEAK OVER THE SYSTEM. BY
82DAY THREE THE TROPICAL CYCLONE IS EXPECTED TO CATCH UP TO THE
83UPPER-LEVEL LOW...WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN
84WIND SHEAR...AND A HALTING OF INTENSIFICATION. THE SHEAR MAY
85DECREASE BY THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD AS THE CYCLONE BEGINS TO
86MOVE AWAY FROM THE UPPER LOW. THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST HAS BEEN
87LOWERED SLIGHTLY...IN LARGE PART DUE TO THE CURRENT ORGANIZATION OF
88THE STORM...AND IS CLOSE TO THE DECAY SHIPS AND LGEM MODELS.
89
90FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
91
92INIT  22/2100Z 13.1N  37.4W   30 KT  35 MPH
93 12H  23/0600Z 14.0N  39.6W   40 KT  45 MPH
94 24H  23/1800Z 15.0N  42.2W   45 KT  50 MPH
95 36H  24/0600Z 16.0N  44.9W   45 KT  50 MPH
96 48H  24/1800Z 17.1N  47.5W   50 KT  60 MPH
97 72H  25/1800Z 19.9N  53.6W   50 KT  60 MPH
98 96H  26/1800Z 23.5N  59.5W   55 KT  65 MPH
99120H  27/1800Z 28.5N  64.5W   60 KT  70 MPH
100
101$$
102FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN/ZELINSKY
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104
105WTNT45 KNHC 230233
106TCDAT5
107
108TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN DISCUSSION NUMBER   3
109NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL102012
1101100 PM AST WED AUG 22 2012
111
112TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN HAS BEEN PRODUCING PULSES OF DEEP CONVECTION
113DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS...AND RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY SUGGESTS
114THAT THE LOW-LEVEL CLOUD PATTERN REMAINS SOMEWHAT DISORGANIZED.
115DVORAK CI NUMBERS ARE UNCHANGED AT 2.0 FROM TAFB AND SAB...AND THE
116CYCLONE IS STILL BEING DESIGNATED AS A 30-KT DEPRESSION.
117
118WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT THE ROAD AHEAD IS SOMEWHAT OF AN
119OBSTACLE COURSE.  THE DEPRESSION IS NOT TOO FAR FROM AN UPPER-LEVEL
120LOW LOCATED TO ITS NORTHWEST...AND IT IS LIKELY TO INTERACT WITH
121THIS FEATURE IN SOME FASHION FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.  EVEN AFTER
122THE DEPRESSION MOVES AWAY FROM THE UPPER-LOW ON DAYS 4 AND 5...THE
123CYCLONE COULD THEN BE AFFECTED BY THE UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW OF
124TROPICAL STORM ISAAC TO ITS WEST.  THE DYNAMICAL GFDL AND HWRF
125MODELS HAVE NEVER SHOWN MUCH STRENGTHENING WITH THIS CYCLONE...AND
126THE STATISTICAL SHIPS AND LGEM MODELS HAVE COME DOWN CONSIDERABLY
127ON THIS FORECAST CYCLE.  THE NHC INTENSITY FORECAST HAS BEEN
128ADJUSTED DOWNWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE...LYING JUST ABOVE THE
129GUIDANCE FOR THE FIRST 48 HOURS AND THEN VERY NEAR THE INTENSITY
130CONSENSUS FOR DAYS 3 THROUGH 5.
131
132THE DEPRESSION IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND
133HAS AN ESTIMATED MOTION OF 295/15 KT.  THE CYCLONE SHOULD CONTINUE
134TO BE STEERED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD UNTIL IT REACHES THE WESTERN
135PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE ON DAY 3.  A TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND
136NORTH-NORTHWEST IS THEN EXPECTED ON DAYS 4 AND 5.  THE TRACK
137GUIDANCE ENVELOPE HAS SHIFTED TO THE WEST ON THIS CYCLE BUT IS
138STILL IN RELATIVELY GOOD AGREEMENT.  THE NEW NHC FORECAST HAS
139THEREFORE BEEN NUDGED WESTWARD ON DAYS 4 AND 5.  THIS TRACK ENDS UP
140VERY CLOSE TO THE GFS AND ECMWF SOLUTIONS...WHICH ARE NEARLY
141IDENTICAL ON DAY 5.
142
143FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
144
145INIT  23/0300Z 13.8N  39.5W   30 KT  35 MPH
146 12H  23/1200Z 14.5N  41.5W   35 KT  40 MPH
147 24H  24/0000Z 15.4N  44.1W   35 KT  40 MPH
148 36H  24/1200Z 16.4N  46.7W   35 KT  40 MPH
149 48H  25/0000Z 17.6N  49.5W   40 KT  45 MPH
150 72H  26/0000Z 21.0N  55.5W   40 KT  45 MPH
151 96H  27/0000Z 25.0N  62.0W   45 KT  50 MPH
152120H  28/0000Z 30.0N  65.5W   50 KT  60 MPH
153
154$$
155FORECASTER BERG
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157
158WTNT45 KNHC 230858
159TCDAT5
160
161TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN DISCUSSION NUMBER   4
162NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL       AL102012
163500 AM AST THU AUG 23 2012
164
165DEEP CONVECTION WITH THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION CONTINUES TO BE
166SPORADIC THOUGH WITH QUITE COLD CLOUD TOPS.  THE CENTER APPEARS TO
167BE NEAR THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CONVECTION SUGGESTING THAT THE
168MODERATE SOUTHERLY VERTICAL SHEAR IS INHIBITING ITS DEVELOPMENT.
169AS A RESULT OF THE LACK OF IMPROVEMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION OF THE
170DEEP CONVECTION...THE DVORAK CLASSIFICATIONS FROM TAFB AND SAB
171REMAIN AT A 2.0...OR ABOUT 30 KT.  IN CONTRAST...TWO RECENT AMSU
172SATELLITE PASSES SUGGEST THAT THE CYCLONE MAY BE A 35 TO 45 KT
173TROPICAL STORM.  GIVEN THE UNIMPRESSIVE CONVECTIVE STRUCTURE...THE
174SYSTEM REMAINS AS A 30-KT TROPICAL DEPRESSION.
175
176A 0406Z AMSU IMAGE FROM THE NRL WEBSITE PROVIDES MODERATE CONFIDENCE
177IN THE INITIAL POSITION OF THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION.  THE CURRENT
178MOTION OF THE SYSTEM CONTINUES TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST...295
179DEGREES...AT 14 KT...AS THE CYCLONE IS BEING ADVECTED AROUND THE
180SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF A DEEP-LAYER SUBTROPICAL RIDGE.  THE SYSTEM
181SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST BY DAY FIVE AS IT
182REACHES THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE RIDGE.  THE GLOBAL AND REGIONAL
183TRACK GUIDANCE SHOWS RELATIVELY TIGHT CLUSTERING AND HAD LITTLE
184CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS MODEL CYCLE.  THUS THE TRACK FORECAST IS
185NEARLY IDENTICAL TO BOTH THE LAST ADVISORY AND THE HFIP TV15
186CONSENSUS.
187
188THE INTENSITY PREDICTION IS MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN THE TRACK
189FORECAST.  THE AFOREMENTIONED MODERATE VERTICAL SHEAR IS PRIMARILY
190BEING INDUCED BY AN UPPER LOW LOCATED ABOUT 600 NM NORTHWEST OF THE
191CYCLONE.  THE TROPICAL DEPRESSION AND THE UPPER LOW SHOULD GET
192CLOSER TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT THREE DAYS...WHICH WOULD CONTINUE
193MODERATE SHEAR ACROSS THE CYCLONE.  ON DAYS FOUR AND FIVE...THE
194VERTICAL SHEAR MAY INCREASE DUE TO THE OUTFLOW OF ISAAC.
195MOREOVER...THE THERMODYNAMICS ARE NOT CONDUCIVE FOR MUCH
196INTENSIFICATION AS SOME DRY STABLE AIR ASSOCIATED WITH A SAHARAN
197AIR LAYER...WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THE VERTICAL SHEAR...MAY BE
198REACHING THE INNER CORE OF THE CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT TWO TO THREE
199DAYS.  THUS ONLY VERY GRADUAL INTENSIFICATION IS SHOWN THROUGHOUT
200THE FORECAST PERIOD IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH HWRF AND SHIPS MODELS.
201THE PREDICTED INTENSITIES ARE REDUCED SLIGHTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS
202ADVISORY. AN ALTERNATIVE SCENARIO DEPICTED BY THE ECMWF AND GFDL
203MODELS IS THAT THE CYCLONE COULD SUCCOMB TO THE HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
204AND DISSIPATE BEFORE THE END OF THE FORECAST PERIOD.
205
206FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
207
208INIT  23/0900Z 14.5N  40.6W   30 KT  35 MPH
209 12H  23/1800Z 15.2N  42.5W   35 KT  40 MPH
210 24H  24/0600Z 16.2N  45.0W   35 KT  40 MPH
211 36H  24/1800Z 17.4N  47.7W   35 KT  40 MPH
212 48H  25/0600Z 18.8N  50.8W   35 KT  40 MPH
213 72H  26/0600Z 22.0N  57.0W   40 KT  45 MPH
214 96H  27/0600Z 27.0N  63.0W   45 KT  50 MPH
215120H  28/0600Z 31.0N  64.5W   45 KT  50 MPH
216
217$$
218FORECASTER LANDSEA
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