1<mingus> emacs is /da-bomb/ 2<mingus> it's exactly all the things i wanted vim to be but never was 3<glyph> mingus: the sad part is, it's exactly all the things bram wanted vim to be but never was; vim is the trophy of ignorance's triumph over laziness 4<glyph> but hey, it's, uh, faster to start 5% 6<dash> slyphon: sure, but this has happened before 7<slyphon> dash: when? 8<symbiont> glyph: such as the working people paying off debt 9<slyphon> dash: and how many vetoes 10<dash> slyphon: dagnab it 11<dash> slyphon: you're harshing my rhetorical buzz 12<slyphon> dash: you have taught me well 13<slyphon> ;) 14<dash> hracht! i gotta stop teaching you stuff. 15% 16<slyphon> why is it that when women get pms and they give you a hard time about nothing that the _LAST_ thing on _EARTH_ you can suggest to them is that they might be the teensiest, weensiest bit on edge because they have PMS? 17<Yosomono> slyphon: Because you are basically telling them that their feelings are the result of chemical imbalance, and therefore unimportant. 18<slyphon> BUT THEY ARE! 19<saph_w> slyphon: because it belittles what they're feeling to being simply a hormonal response 20<Yosomono> slyphon: Good luck buddy. 21% 22<MFen> i think i've finally become an abstronaut 23<MFen> i'm able to break source into its fundamental abstractinos 24<MFen> pretty soon i'll be writing a mud engine just so i can rewrite it again from scratch 25% 26<dash> what the heck, i think i pushed the wrong button in emacs 27<dash> "Pinging loginfo.py (Paraguay)..." 28% 29<symbiont> btw, i've noticed that the word "federated" is not in the Twisted source tree, should i file a roundup on this issue? 30% 31<saph_w> i suppose he would have to find a good contact to the underground prior to his cat transformation so he can purchase a wig there 32% 33<cyli> Is Michael Eisner Trent Eisner's son? 34 [Since people keep asking about this one, say it slowly: 35 Trent Reznor. Trent rEznor. Trent Eizner. Get it? -ed] 36% 37<Yosomono> You guys need to stream pycon online. 38<dash> Yosomono: all the other people trying to use the wifi would hate us 39<Yosomono> dash: It should be a standard feature of the con. 40<dash> Yosomono: Maybe so. 41<Yosomono> dash: This is the year 2004 for cripesake. 42<saph_w> Yosomono: maybe the japs should give us our fucking flying cars, then we'll talk about streaming video! 43% 44<jml> there's a book out called 'implementing CIFS' 45<jml> anyone want to buy it for me? 46<exarkun> why didn't they just implement CIFS and sell a CD containing the implementation? 47<jml> because people like me would re-implement it anyway 48% 49<lemonodor> it's canadian, you know. 50<lemonodor> er, i mean, written in lisp. 51% 52* radix sads at spacelessness 53<moshez> radix: don't sad 54<moshez> radix: happy at contentfulness 55% 56<phobos> but like, when you were 16-22, (maybe you still are), most sexual contact you obtained was through just 'hooking up', i.e. meeting someone at a party, stoned and/or drunk, and doing things for the night only, right? 57<maciej> phobos: no, most sexual contact I obtained was with myself 58<maciej> and that was a long-term relationship 59% 60* radix remembers twisted.web.html.Interface, feels nostalgia 61<radix> wait, no. that's not nostalgia, that's horror 62% 63<exarkun> chrchr: A great man once called cotton the fabric of our lives. Is that not more important than the fabric of our society? 64<exarkun> chrchr: For what is society without livelyhood? 65<jml> exarkun: IRC? 66% 67<saph> what is gentoo again? 68% 69<MFen> exceptions.ImportError No module named win32com.gen_py.565783C6-CB41-11D1-8B02-00600806D9B6x0x1x2 70<czth> i wouldn't name a _dog_ win32com.gen_py.565783C6-CB41-11D1-8B02-00600806D9B6x0x1x2 71% 72<etrepum> Jokes around here tend to get followed by implementations. 73% 74<dreid> jml: i thought warner wanted to be a Problem object that can be passed via jelly 75% 76<chrchr> PenguinOfDoom: Also, what non-sucky HTTP server? What would you use, besides twisted.web? 77<glyphG4> chrchr: roxen! 78<chrchr> glyphG4: Roxen? Really?? 79<glyphG4> chrchr: no, not really 80<glyphG4> chrchr: I write all my own crap so I don't have to deal with questions like this 81% 82<radix> INSTALL says that panda will take 1-2 hours to compile 83<radix> <3 C++ 84<dash> c++, it gives you free time! 85% 86<PenguinOfDoom> omfg yes, another weapon to stab radix when he claims that X is useful. 87<dash> PenguinOfDoom: what's useful-er 88<MFen> flash cards 89<MFen> and a rotor to display them very quickly 90% 91<KevinMarks> I really like that unicode has a code point for 'snowman with a hat on' 92% 93<moshez> but yes, theoretically Ogg could replace tar :) 94<MFen> you could have subtitles while you're untarring 95<MFen> "Look! another directory!" 96% 97<redheadatwork> Well, our seder consists mainly of the four questions, which I do twice (once the real ones, once a set I make up on the fly), and a lot of food. Sometimes a song. 98<redheadatwork> And an orange on the seder plate. 99<furan> Before you you see: 100<furan> An orange on a cedar plate. 101<furan> take orange 102<furan> You cannot take the orange. It is firmly fastened to the cedar plate. 103<furan> Take plate 104<furan> You successfully take the cedar plate. 105<furan> #joiito: the adventure game 106<furan> "now with graphics!" 107% 108<Suw> oh, i'm having problems thinking in english. 109<Suw> i keep wanting ot type in welsh instead 110<ChrisDodo> pobol y cwm? 111<Suw> lol 112<Suw> dw i'm yn edrych pobol y cwm 113<Suw> cachu ydy o 114* ChrisDodo turns on english subtitles 115<jeanniecool> "probably you'll come?" 116<jeanniecool> "lol" 117<jeanniecool> "duh I'm probably about ready to come" 118<jeanniecool> "catch yo daddy" 119* shiruken sniffles 120<shiruken> welsh is such a beautiful language 121% 122<cablehead> who would win in a fight between a lion and a monkey ( with a bag of rocks ) 123<dash> that's boring 124<dash> ask who would win in a fight between a monkey and a pirate 125<exarkun> that's boring 126<exarkun> ask who would win in a fight between a pirate monkey and a bag of lions 127% 128<dash> i am trying to get Asterisk to work 129<dash> it is stabbing me in the face 130<dreid> yes ... i seem to recall that feature in the documentation 131% 132<radix> it's stupid 133<slyphon> it is? 134<radix> the proper solution is to use an alternative implementation of time 135% 136<radix> So, I guess the reason you chose ftp as a discovery protocol is because it's a semi-ubiquitous anonymous protocol that allows people to communicate? 137<edsuom> No, because I was stupid 138% 139<riptor> flashback to 1945, nazi makes portal (how? who cares), demon pops out, us troops find demon, give it a candybar, name it hellboy <- plot 140% 141<dash> i think i want to implement simulacrum in common lisp 142<exarkun> no 143<exarkun> go away 144<dash> i know i know 145<dash> it's a personal problem 146<dash> but therapy is expensive 147% 148<warner> although.. actually several of my projects are violently battling for the dubious honor of being the least likely to turn into cash 149% 150<PenguinOfDoom> saph: What did you write to your mom? 151<saph> PenguinOfDoom: about being happy that she's home fine from the hospital and how i feel lucky she's ok and stuff 152<saph> PenguinOfDoom: and i told her that her bonsai will eventually give fruit, but i don't know if she can eat it 153<itamar> saph: is that a metaphor for grandchildren? 154% 155<MFen> exarkun: my brain is the size of a pickup truck 156<slyphon> HAH 157<exarkun> MFen: ah! 158<slyphon> MFen: that's nothin, Jesus built my hot rod! 159<MFen> hehe 160<radix> psh 161<radix> satan *is* my motor! 162<slyphon> :D 163<MFen> radix: you HAVE been practicing! 164% 165<Logan> Although I'm fighting for it, my boss thinks the customer wants it done in C++ or, even worse, Java. 166<Logan> But I told him it'd quadruple the cost. :P 167<PenguinOfDoom> Logan: What does the customer care, anyway? 168<Logan> PenguinOfDoom: That's what I said. It's like dictating what brand of toothpaste your plumber brushes his teeth with. 169% 170<radix> A VoIP server "powered entirely by stabbing, that I made out of this gun I had" 171% 172<exarkun> I can't tell if HP-UX sucks /even more/ than last time I used it or if somehow my terminal settings are causing non-deterministic behavior 173<exarkun> For example! 174<exarkun> T.................................................................................SSSS........Changing password for jcalder9 on NIS server 175<exarkun> Old NIS password: 176<exarkun> I hit <enter> and the tests proceeded 177<exarkun> Do we call passwd in our tests or something? :) 178% 179<itamar> 22 bugs and I'm a free man 180<PenguinOfDoom> A slave contract under an entymologist? 181% 182<slyphon> slyphon: mock mock mock 183<PenguinOfDoom> slyphon: Did you grab the wrong end of a mockery gun? 184% 185<PenguinOfDoom> Being enlightened gentlemen, we split all programming languages into two groups, sucks and doesn't-suck and put all of them into the first group. 186% 187<itamar> what are you going to do at cisco? 188<exarkun> rot and die, I bet 189<PenguinOfDoom> itamar: IOS debuggery. 190<exarkun> woo I win 191% 192<SamB> what do interfaces do when you call them? is that even allowed? 193<exarkun> welcome to the year 1973. 194<exarkun> callable interfaces roam the surface of the earth 195<exarkun> humanity has fled underground 196% 197<dash> consumption does not create wealth, production does 198<dash> people in China have noticed this, people in America have not 199<moshez> consumption is good 200<moshez> dash: creating wealth is not an intristic value 201<dash> moshez: being naked, cold, hungry, and defenseless isn't either 202<dash> moshez: but if you don't create wealth, you will be those things! 203<moshez> dash: are you naked ? 204<moshez> dash: wait, that came out wrong 205* moshez hides 206<dash> i am not h3x 207<moshez> anyone adds this to quotes, I hunt you down and kill you 208% 209* kev wonders if having people checking output by eye counts as a valid unit test 210<MFen> if you can attach electrodes to them and force them to do it every time 211<exarkun> and they have to turn red when it fails 212% 213<RemyWork> http://web.archive.org/web/20030608082636/http://www.movabletype.org/commercial_license.shtml 214<RemyWork> I love having to use the wayback machine to see what my rights are 215% 216<exarkun> I suspect the performance of this irrelevant task is highly sensitive to implementation decisions 217% 218<radix> I just downloaded the fruitiest anime ever 219<radix> it's .. girly 220<radix> it's about a girl's school, and about a "sister" system between upperclassmen and lowerclassmen, and .. and... *twitch* 221<radix> there isn't any hitting! 222% 223<mwh> i wonder if i should post an "are you serious" comment 224<radix> mwh: that's a lot nicer than the comment I was thinking up 225<radix> which was something along the lines of "Holy shit, I'm sick of the horrible crap that's showing up in this God-forsaken cookbook." 226% 227<mamamusings> grades are due by saturday 228<mamamusings> that means i have to at least pretend to evaluate them 229<crw> i KNEW teachers talked like this when students weren't around :P 230<mamamusings> hell, i talk like this when they *are* around 231<mamamusings> it's good to be tenured 232% 233<moshez> On January 8th, 1977, Amber Nicole Benson came into this world -- more 234<moshez> specifically, she was born in Birmingham, Alabama. 235<radix> who the heck is she, anyway? 236<moshez> radix: you know what's shocking? technically, you and I share the same universe 237<radix> moshez: I fight to make that untrue every day 238% 239