1WTNT41 KNHC 281847
2TCDAT1
3TROPICAL STORM NOEL SPECIAL DISCUSSION NUMBER   4
4NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
5215 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2007
6
7THIS SPECIAL ADVISORY IS BEING ISSUED TO REFLECT CHANGES IN THE
8INITIAL AND FORECAST POSITION AND INTENSITY FOR TROPICAL STORM
9NOEL.  THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET TO 45 KT BASED ON 1000-FT
10FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF ABOUT 55 KT...AND SFMR ESTIMATES BETWEEN 45
11AND 50 KT.  INTENSITY FORECAST HAS ALSO BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY
12UPWARD.  THE AIRCRAFT LOCATED THE CIRCULATION CENTER ABOUT 45 N MI
13NORTHEAST OF THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY POSITION.  THE OFFICIAL TRACK
14FORECAST HAS BEEN ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY NORTHWARD AND EASTWARD TO
15ACCOUNT FOR THE RELOCATION.
16
17PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PRONUNCIATION FOR THE THIS STORM'S NAME IS
18NOL...WITH A LONG O SOUND AND JUST ONE SYLLABLE...OR EXACTLY LIKE
19THE WORD KNOLL.
20
21
22FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
23
24INITIAL      28/1815Z 16.9N  72.1W    45 KT
25 12HR VT     29/0000Z 17.6N  72.7W    50 KT
26 24HR VT     29/1200Z 18.7N  74.2W    55 KT
27 36HR VT     30/0000Z 19.9N  75.5W    60 KT
28 48HR VT     30/1200Z 21.1N  76.6W    50 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
29 72HR VT     31/1200Z 22.5N  77.5W    55 KT
30 96HR VT     01/1200Z 23.5N  77.5W    55 KT
31120HR VT     02/1200Z 25.5N  75.5W    50 KT
32
33$$
34FORECASTER KNABB
35
36
37WTNT41 KNHC 282059
38TCDAT1
39TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER   5
40NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
41500 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2007
42
43EARLIER TODAY THE CIRCULATION CENTER REFORMED CLOSER TO THE DEEP
44CONVECTION AND THE CYCLONE STRENGTHENED...AS CONFIRMED BY DATA FROM
45AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT.  THE POSITION FIXES FROM THE
46AIRCRAFT HAVE BOUNCED AROUND A BIT...BUT OVERALL THE SYSTEM IS
47ESTIMATED TO BE MOVING SLOWLY NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD OR 330/4.  THE
48ADVISORY INTENSITY IS RAISED SLIGHTLY TO 50 KT BASED ON SFMR AND
49FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND OBSERVATIONS.  THE STRONGEST WINDS ARE CONFINED
50TO THE AREA BETWEEN THE CIRCULATION CENTER AND THE SOUTHERN COAST OF
51HISPANIOLA...BUT PLENTY OF RAINBANDS EXTEND WELL TO THE EAST AND
52SOUTH WHILE THE SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT IS MOSTLY CONVECTION-FREE.
53
54FOLLOWING THE CENTER RELOCATION...THE GLOBAL MODEL TRACK GUIDANCE
55HAS SHIFTED NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD THE HWRF AND GFDL WHICH STILL
56PROVIDE THE EASTERNMOST SOLUTIONS.  NEARLY ALL OF THE MODELS SHOW A
57NORTHWESTWARD OR NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION DURING THE NEXT COUPLE
58OF DAYS AS THE MID-LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC WEAKENS
59AND SLIDES EASTWARD IN ADVANCE OF A SHORT-WAVE TROUGH MOVING INTO
60THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES.  BEYOND ABOUT 48 HOURS THE MODELS
61DIVERGE...WITH THE GLOBAL MODELS FORECASTING A WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
62JOG NEAR OR OVER CUBA...WHILE GFDL AND HWRF HEAD NORTHWARD.  THE
63NEW OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE AND IS NUDGED TO
64THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS/SPECIAL ADVISORY.
65
66EVEN THOUGH NOEL HAS NOTABLY STRENGTHENED TODAY...IT IS NOT CLEAR
67HOW MUCH MORE INTENSIFICATION WILL OCCUR.  THE AMOUNT OF
68INTERACTION WITH LAND DURING THE NEXT 2-3 DAYS IS STILL RATHER
69UNCERTAIN...BUT THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST INDICATES
70STRENGTHENING SINCE THE CYCLONE WILL BE MOSTLY OVER WATER IF THE
71OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST VERIFIES.  IT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION
72THAT NOEL COULD BECOME A HURRICANE PRIOR TO PASSING OVER CUBA.
73THEREAFTER...STRENGTHENING SHOULD BE LIMITED BY WIND SHEAR IMPOSED
74BY THE MIDLATITUDE WESTERLIES.
75
76PLEASE NOTE THAT THE PRONUNCIATION FOR THE THIS STORM'S NAME IS
77NOL...WITH A LONG O SOUND AND JUST ONE SYLLABLE...OR EXACTLY LIKE
78THE WORD KNOLL.
79
80FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
81
82INITIAL      28/2100Z 16.8N  71.9W    50 KT
83 12HR VT     29/0600Z 17.9N  72.8W    55 KT
84 24HR VT     29/1800Z 19.1N  74.0W    60 KT
85 36HR VT     30/0600Z 20.2N  75.0W    60 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
86 48HR VT     30/1800Z 21.4N  75.8W    45 KT...OVER WATER
87 72HR VT     31/1800Z 23.5N  76.0W    50 KT
88 96HR VT     01/1800Z 26.0N  75.0W    50 KT
89120HR VT     02/1800Z 29.0N  73.5W    50 KT
90
91$$
92FORECASTER KNABB
93
94
95WTNT41 KNHC 290242
96TCDAT1
97TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER   6
98NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
991100 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2007
100
101NOEL HAS NOT BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS
102ALTHOUGH IT CONTINUES TO PRODUCE STRONG CONVECTION PRIMARILY IN
103CLUSTERS OVER THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE CIRCULATION.  SOME OF
104THIS CONVECTION HAS BEEN SPREADING OVER HISPANIOLA AND IS LIKELY
105GENERATING VERY HEAVY RAINS OVER PORTIONS OF THAT ISLAND.  DVORAK
106INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE 45 KT FROM TAFB AND SAB...BUT BASED ON THE
107EARLIER AIRCRAFT OBSERVATIONS THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 50
108KT.  ANOTHER RECONNAISSANCE PLANE IS SCHEDULED TO INVESTIGATE NOEL
109AROUND 0600 UTC TO GIVE A NEW ESTIMATE OF THE STRENGTH AND POSITION
110OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE.
111
112IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIX THE LOCATION OF THE CIRCULATION CENTER BASED
113SOLELY ON CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE IMAGERY.  UTILIZING POSITION
114ESTIMATES FROM EARLIER SSM/I AND AMSR-E MICROWAVE IMAGERY...THE
115INITIAL MOTION IS A RATHER UNCERTAIN 330/4.   NOEL IS APPARENTLY
116EMBEDDED WITHIN THE EASTERN PORTION OF A MID- TO UPPER-LEVEL
117CYCLONIC CIRCULATION WITH A WEAKENING SUBTROPICAL ANTICYCLONE A
118LITTLE FARTHER TO THE NORTH.  BOTH OF THESE FEATURES ARE FORECAST
119TO WEAKEN AS A MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE
120NORTHWEST.  THIS STEERING PATTERN EVOLUTION SHOULD CAUSE NOEL TO
121GRADUALLY TURN NORTHWARD IN A FEW DAYS.  THE DYNAMICAL MODELS ARE
122BASICALLY CLUSTERING INTO TWO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.  THE GFS AND THE
123ECMWF SUGGEST A WEAKER CYCLONE MOVING ON A GENERALLY
124WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TRACK.  HOWEVER...THE GFS SOLUTION LOOKS
125QUESTIONABLE SINCE IT SPLITS NOEL INTO TWO LOWER-TROPOSPHERIC
126VORTICITY MAXIMA WITHIN A DAY OR SO AND DEVELOPS A THIRD CENTER
127FARTHER TO THE NORTHEAST WITHIN 72 HOURS.  THE OFFICIAL TRACK
128FORECAST IS CLOSE TO A CONSENSUS OF THE GFDL...GFDN...HWRF...U.K.
129MET AND NOGAPS TRACKS.  THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PREVIOUS NHC
130TRACK.
131
132THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW HAS BEEN IMPARTING SOME SOUTHWESTERLY SHEARING
133ON THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WHICH IS INHIBITING AN INCREASE IN
134ORGANIZATION AT THIS TIME.  DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE INDICATES THAT THIS
135LOW WILL SOON FILL...CREATING AN UPPER-LEVEL WIND ENVIRONMENT MORE
136CONDUCIVE FOR STRENGTHENING.  A COMPLICATING FACTOR IS HOW MUCH THE
137INTERACTION WITH THE MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN OF HAITI AND EASTERN CUBA
138WILL DISRUPT THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL.  BY DAYS 3-5...INCREASING
139WESTERLY SHEAR SHOULD INTERRUPT THE INTENSIFICATION PROCESS...AND
140BY THE END OF THE PERIOD THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE LOSING ITS TROPICAL
141CHARACTERISTICS AS IT INTERACTS WITH A FRONTAL ZONE.
142
143FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
144
145INITIAL      29/0300Z 17.1N  72.1W    50 KT
146 12HR VT     29/1200Z 18.3N  73.2W    50 KT...INLAND OVER HAITI
147 24HR VT     30/0000Z 19.7N  74.5W    60 KT...OVER WATER
148 36HR VT     30/1200Z 21.0N  75.7W    55 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
149 48HR VT     31/0000Z 22.4N  76.1W    55 KT...OVER WATER
150 72HR VT     01/0000Z 25.0N  76.0W    55 KT
151 96HR VT     02/0000Z 28.0N  74.5W    50 KT
152120HR VT     03/0000Z 31.0N  72.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
153
154$$
155FORECASTER PASCH/ROBERTS
156
157WTNT41 KNHC 290858
158TCDAT1
159TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER   7
160NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
161500 AM EDT MON OCT 29 2007
162
163THE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND A WELL-DEFINED
164CENTER OF CIRCULATION AT 850 MB...BUT DROPSONDE DATA INDICATE THAT
165THE CENTER LIKELY REFORMED AGAIN TO THE NORTH...CLOSER TO THE DEEP
166CONVECTION AND VERY CLOSE TO THE COAST OF HAITI.  THE DROPSONDE
167DATA ALSO INDICATE THAT THE CENTRAL PRESSURE HAS RISEN SINCE THIS
168AFTERNOON...AND IS NOW LIKELY AROUND 1002 MB.  THERE WAS AN SFMR
169REPORT OF 42 KT...ABOUT 80 NMI EAST OF THE CENTER...AND ON THIS
170BASIS THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS ESTIMATED TO BE 45 KT.
171
172THE INITIAL MOTION IS 340/5.  AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW TO THE WEST OF NOEL
173IS INFLUENCING THE CONVECTIVE ASYMMETRY AND THE CENTER HAS BEEN
174FOLLOWING THE CONVECTION.  THE UPPER LOW IS EXPECTED TO WEAKEN OVER
175THE NEXT DAY OR SO...AND WITH A MID-LEVEL RIDGE IN PLACE OVER THE
176SUBTROPICAL WESTERN ATLANTIC...THE TRACK SHOULD BEGIN TO TURN MORE
177TO THE NORTHWEST OVER THE NEXT TWO TO THREE DAYS.  THE RIDGE IS
178THEN FORECAST BY GLOBAL MODELS TO WEAKEN AND SHIFT EASTWARD WITH
179THE APPROACH OF A MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE TROUGH...WHICH IS EXPECTED TO
180TURN NOEL NORTHWARD AND THEN NORTHEASTWARD.  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
181THE ECMWF AND UKMET...WHICH RUN A WEAK LOW ALONG OR SOUTH OF
182CUBA...THE MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT
183ON THIS SCENARIO.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS SHIFTED TO THE RIGHT OF
184THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY FOR THE FIRST 48 HOURS...AS A RESULT OF THE
185NORTHWARD RELOCATION OF THE CENTER.
186
187IT NOW APPEARS THAT THE CENTER OF NOEL...WHICH IS NOT WELL-DEFINED
188TO BEGIN WITH...WILL BE INTERACTING WITH THE TERRAIN OF HAITI FOR
189THE NEXT 12 HOURS OR SO. ASSUMING IT SURVIVES THE PASSAGE...THE
190NEGATIVE INFLUENCE OF THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW SHOULD DIMINISH AND ALL
191GUIDANCE INDICATES RESTRENGTHENING. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS CLOSE
192TO THE DECAY SHIPS AND LGEM...BUT SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE GFDL AND
193HWRF. BY DAYS 4-5...INCREASING WESTERLY SHEAR SHOULD INTERRUPT THE
194INTENSIFICATION PROCESS...AND BY THE END OF THE PERIOD THE SYSTEM
195SHOULD BE LOSING ITS TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS AS IT INTERACTS WITH
196A FRONTAL ZONE.
197
198
199
200FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
201
202INITIAL      29/0900Z 18.0N  72.3W    45 KT
203 12HR VT     29/1800Z 19.4N  72.9W    30 KT
204 24HR VT     30/0600Z 21.1N  74.0W    40 KT
205 36HR VT     30/1800Z 22.2N  75.0W    50 KT
206 48HR VT     31/0600Z 23.0N  75.8W    55 KT
207 72HR VT     01/0600Z 26.0N  76.0W    55 KT
208 96HR VT     02/0600Z 29.0N  74.0W    50 KT
209120HR VT     03/0600Z 32.0N  70.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
210
211$$
212FORECASTER FRANKLIN
213
214
215WTNT41 KNHC 291456
216TCDAT1
217TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER   8
218NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
2191100 AM EDT MON OCT 29 2007
220
221NOEL HAS BECOME LESS ORGANIZED AS IT INTERACTS WITH THE COMPLEX
222TERRAIN OF HISPANIOLA.  A MID-LEVEL VORTICITY MAXIMUM EMERGED NORTH
223OF THE ISLAND A FEW HOURS AGO...AND VISIBLE IMAGERY SUGGESTS A
224LOW-LEVEL CENTER IS REFORMING ALONG THE NORTHWESTERN COAST OF
225HAITI.  UNTIL THE NEXT AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE INVESTIGATES
226THE AREA THIS AFTERNOON...THE LOCATION...FORWARD MOTION...AND EVEN
227THE EXISTENCE OF A LOW-LEVEL CENTER REMAIN RATHER UNCERTAIN.
228
229OUR BEST ESTIMATE OF THE INITIAL MOTION IS NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD OR
230335/10...WITH STEERING PROVIDED BY A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE NORTH
231AND EAST OF THE CYCLONE.  NEARLY ALL OF THE DYNAMICAL MODELS
232FORECAST A SURFACE LOW TO BECOME RE-ESTABLISHED SOMEWHERE OVER THE
233BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...BUT THEY DO NOT AGREE ON THE
234VERTICAL EXTENT OF THE CIRCULATION. THE GFDL CONTINUES TO INSIST ON
235NOEL BECOMING A HURRICANE THAT WILL ACCELERATE QUICKLY NORTHWARD
236AND THEN NORTHEASTWARD. THE OTHER EXTREME IS THE ECMWF THAT DEPICTS
237A WEAK SURFACE LOW HANGING OUT NEAR CUBA FOR THE NEXT FIVE DAYS.
238THE REMAINING MODELS ARE IN BETWEEN...AND FORECAST A GENERAL
239NORTHWESTWARD MOTION WITH A DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED DURING THE
240NEXT 48 HOURS. SOME OF THOSE MODELS...INCLUDING THE GFS...FORECAST
241LITTLE MOTION ON DAYS 3-5...WHILE THE NOGAPS SHOWS A NORTHEASTWARD
242ACCELERATION IN THAT TIME FRAME.  THE NEW OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST
243SHOWS A WEAKENING AND INCREASINGLY SHALLOW CYCLONE THAT SLOWLY
244RECURVES NORTHEASTWARD OVER THE BAHAMAS AFTER 48 HOURS...IN
245RESPONSE TO AN APPROACHING SHORT-WAVE TROUGH...SIMILAR TO THE HWRF
246SOLUTION AND A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.
247
248ASSUMING THE CYCLONE REGAINS SUFFICIENT ORGANIZATION AFTER BEING
249DISRUPTED OVER HISPANIOLA...ATMOSPHERIC AND OCEAN CONDITIONS SHOULD
250PROVIDE NOEL WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN A LITTLE DURING THE
251NEXT DAY OR TWO.  THEREAFTER...WESTERLY WIND SHEAR SHOULD
252DRAMATICALLY INCREASE AND INDUCE A WEAKENING TREND.  THE NEW
253OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY DOWNWARD COMPARED
254TO THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY...ESPECIALLY AFTER 48 HOURS.  THIS
255FORECAST IS IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH THE LGEM AND HWRF GUIDANCE...AND
256BELOW THE SHIPS AND GFDL.
257
258FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
259
260INITIAL      29/1500Z 19.9N  73.0W    40 KT
261 12HR VT     30/0000Z 21.2N  73.7W    40 KT
262 24HR VT     30/1200Z 22.4N  74.4W    45 KT
263 36HR VT     31/0000Z 23.4N  75.4W    50 KT
264 48HR VT     31/1200Z 24.3N  76.7W    50 KT
265 72HR VT     01/1200Z 26.0N  76.5W    45 KT
266 96HR VT     02/1200Z 28.0N  75.0W    40 KT
267120HR VT     03/1200Z 30.0N  72.5W    35 KT
268
269$$
270FORECASTER KNABB/MAINELLI
271
272
273WTNT41 KNHC 292059
274TCDAT1
275TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER   9
276NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
277500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2007
278
279THE CENTER OF NOEL EMERGED OFF THE NORTHWESTERN COAST OF HAITI
280EARLIER TODAY...HAS SINCE BEEN MOVING NORTHWESTWARD AT ABOUT
281325/13...AND IS NOW JUST NORTH OF THE EASTERN TIP OF CUBA.  THE
282CIRCULATION CENTER WAS TOO CLOSE TO LAND FOR THE AIR FORCE
283RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT TO FLY DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CENTER...BUT
284FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS AND SURFACE PRESSURE ESTIMATES ARE CONSISTENT
285WITH A POSITION ESTIMATED FROM VISIBLE IMAGERY.  MAXIMUM
286FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS WERE 46 KT...CORRESPONDING TO ABOUT 37 KT AT THE
287SURFACE...WHILE SFMR ESTIMATES PEAKED A LITTLE HIGHER NEAR 50 KT.
288THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS SET TO 45 KT AS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN
289THESE ESTIMATES.  THE CENTRAL DEEP CONVECTION IS LIMITED AND THE
290STORM HAS A VERY SPRAWLING APPEARANCE...BUT PLENTY OF RAINBANDS
291EXTEND WELL TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST...CONTINUING TO BRING HEAVY
292RAINS TO HISPANIOLA.
293
294THE MODELS HAVE PICKED UP ON THE TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND HAVE
295GENERALLY SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO THE LEFT. DURING THE FIRST 48
296HOURS...THE GFDL REMAINS THE EASTERN OUTLIER BUT HAS COME INTO
297BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHERS...WHILE THE GFS PROVIDES THE
298WESTERNMOST TRACK.  DURING THIS PERIOD NOEL SHOULD CONTINUE
299GENERALLY NORTHWESTWARD TO THE SOUTHWEST OF A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL
300RIDGE. THEREAFTER...NOEL SHOULD BEGIN TO TURN NORTHWARD AND
301EVENTUALLY NORTHEASTWARD AS A FRONTAL SYSTEM APPROACHES THE
302SOUTHEAST U.S. COAST. THE MODELS DO NOT AGREE ON HOW SOON THIS TURN
303WILL MATERIALIZE AND HOW FAST NOEL WILL MOVE OUT TO SEA...PERHAPS
304DUE TO VARIATIONS IN THE PREDICTED VERTICAL DEPTH OF THE SYSTEM.
305THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE
306GUIDANCE...WHICH IS A WESTWARD SHIFT FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.
307
308THE INTENSITY GUIDANCE AND OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST ARE
309ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.  MODEST
310STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS UNTIL
311WESTERLY WIND SHEAR INCREASES...WITH WEAKENING EXPECTED THEREAFTER
312AS NOEL HEADS NORTHEASTWARD AND EVENTUALLY BECOMES EXTRATROPICAL.
313THIS FORECAST IS AGAIN IN BEST AGREEMENT WITH THE LGEM AND HWRF.
314
315
316FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
317
318INITIAL      29/2100Z 20.9N  74.2W    45 KT
319 12HR VT     30/0600Z 22.4N  75.6W    45 KT
320 24HR VT     30/1800Z 23.7N  77.2W    50 KT
321 36HR VT     31/0600Z 24.7N  78.5W    50 KT
322 48HR VT     31/1800Z 25.8N  79.0W    50 KT
323 72HR VT     01/1800Z 27.5N  77.5W    45 KT
324 96HR VT     02/1800Z 31.0N  73.0W    40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
325120HR VT     03/1800Z 35.0N  68.0W    35 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
326
327$$
328FORECASTER KNABB
329
330
331WTNT41 KNHC 300306
332TCDAT1
333TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  10
334NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
3351100 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2007
336
337SO FAR...NOEL HAS NOT BECOME APPRECIABLY BETTER ORGANIZED ON
338SATELLITE IMAGES AND THE SYSTEM STILL HAS A BROAD AND SPRAWLING
339APPEARANCE.  SOME CELLS OF DEEP CONVECTION HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING
340NEAR THE CENTER BUT THE STRONGEST THUNDERSTORMS ARE GENERALLY
341OCCURRING FARTHER TO THE NORTH.  THE HOLGUIN RADAR IN CUBA ALSO
342INDICATED THAT THE STORM WAS NOT YET VERY WELL ORGANIZED.
343CIRRUS-LEVEL OUTFLOW IS WELL ESTABLISHED OVER THE EASTERN
344SEMICIRCLE BUT LIMITED OVER THE WESTERN PART OF THE TROPICAL
345CYCLONE.  CURRENT INTENSITY IS HELD AT 45 KT WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE
346DVORAK ESTIMATES.
347
348THE CENTER IS NOT EASY TO FIND ON INFRARED IMAGES BUT A 1002 MB SHIP
349OR BUOY OBSERVATION NEAR 0000 UTC WAS LIKELY NOT FAR FROM THE
350CENTER.  THE HOLGUIN RADAR WAS ALSO USEFUL IN LOCATING THE CENTER
351OF CIRCULATION.  INITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE 315/11.  THE
352TROPICAL CYCLONE IS CURRENTLY MOVING ON THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY
353OF A WEAKENING MID-LEVEL RIDGE.  IN ABOUT 48 HOURS...A SHORTWAVE
354TROUGH APPROACHING FROM THE NORTHWEST IS FORECAST TO TURN NOEL
355NORTHWARD.  THEREAFTER A NORTHEASTWARD ACCELERATION IN THE FLOW
356AHEAD OF THE TROUGH IS EXPECTED.  THE CONSENSUS OF THE DYNAMICAL
357TRACK PREDICTION MODELS...IN PARTICULAR THE GFS...GFDL...HWRF...
358GFDN...AND NOGAPS...HAS SHIFTED TO THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS CYCLE
359AROUND THE POINT OF CLOSEST APPROACH TO THE FLORIDA COAST.
360ACCORDINGLY THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST HAS BEEN SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO
361THE EAST OF THE PREVIOUS ONE IN THE 36 TO 48 HOUR TIME FRAME...
362ALBEIT NOT QUITE AS FAR EAST AS THE MODEL CONSENSUS.
363
364THE NEARBY PRESENCE OF A WEAKENING UPPER-LEVEL CYCLONE IS PROBABLY
365STILL HAVING A SLIGHT INHIBITING EFFECT ON THE INTENSIFICATION OF
366NOEL.  WATER VAPOR IMAGES SUGGEST THAT THIS UPPER LOW IS IN THE
367PROCESS OF DISSIPATING.  THEREFORE SOME INCREASE IN STRENGTH IS
368LIKELY DURING THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.  THEREAFTER...WESTERLY
369VERTICAL SHEAR IS FORECAST TO BECOME PROHIBITIVELY STRONG AND THIS
370SHOULD HALT THE INTENSIFICATION.  BY DAY 4 OR SOONER NOEL WILL BE
371EMBEDDED IN A STRONG BAROCLINIC ENVIRONMENT AND SHOULD BE
372TRANSFORMED INTO A STRONG EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.
373
374AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE MIAMI WFO...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS
375NOT BEING ISSUED AT THIS TIME FOR SOUTHEAST FLORIDA.  HIGH WIND
376WATCHES ARE ALREADY IN EFFECT FOR MIAMI-DADE...BROWARD...AND PALM
377BEACH COUNTIES DUE TO THE EXPECTATION OF AN INCREASING PRESSURE
378GRADIENT PRODUCED BY THE COMBINATION OF A STRONG SURFACE HIGH
379BUILDING OVER THE EASTERN U.S. AND THE APPROACH OF NOEL.
380HOWEVER...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MAY STILL BE REQUIRED FOR
381SOUTHEAST FLORIDA EARLY TUESDAY....DEPENDING ON THE FORECAST TRACK
382AND WIND RADII OF THE TROPICAL STORM.
383
384FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
385
386INITIAL      30/0300Z 21.2N  75.0W    45 KT
387 12HR VT     30/1200Z 22.2N  76.3W    50 KT
388 24HR VT     31/0000Z 23.3N  77.6W    55 KT
389 36HR VT     31/1200Z 24.4N  78.4W    55 KT
390 48HR VT     01/0000Z 25.5N  78.5W    50 KT
391 72HR VT     02/0000Z 28.5N  75.5W    45 KT
392 96HR VT     03/0000Z 33.0N  70.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
393120HR VT     04/0000Z 38.0N  64.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
394
395$$
396FORECASTER PASCH/ROBERTS
397
398
399WTNT41 KNHC 300842
400TCDAT1
401TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  11
402NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
403500 AM EDT TUE OCT 30 2007
404
405SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR FROM HOLGUIN CUBA INDICATE THAT
406CENTER OF NOEL HAS BEEN HUGGING THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA. THE CUBAN
407WEATHER STATION 78365...PUNTA LUCRECIA... REPORTED A WIND SHIFT AND
408A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF NEAR 1000 MB AS THE CENTER MOVED NEARBY.  THE
409RADAR ALSO SHOWS THAT MOST OF THE STRONGEST CONVECTIVE BANDS ARE TO
410THE NORTH OF THE CENTER...WHILE THE CLOUD PATTERN IS A LITTLE
411BETTER ORGANIZED ON SATELLITE. THE SFMR ON BOARD OF THE U.S AIR
412FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE RECENTLY MEASURED SURFACE WINDS OF 52
413KNOTS TO THE NORTH OF THE CENTER. BASED ON THIS DATA...THE INITIAL
414INTENSITY HAS BEEN SET AT 50 KNOTS. NOEL HAS A CHANCE TO STRENGTHEN
415A LITTLE BIT MORE AS IT MOVES AWAY FROM CUBA AND BEFORE THE SHEAR
416INCREASES.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST BRINGS THE INTENSITY TO 65 KNOTS
417WHICH IS A BLEND OF SHIPS AND THE GFDL MODELS.
418
419CUBAN RADARS INDICATE THAT NOEL HAS BEEN MOVING WESTWARD OR 280
420DEGREES AT 10 KNOTS. HOWEVER...THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO BE
421SHORT-LIVED AND THE CYCLONE SHOULD TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST LATER
422TODAY AND THEN NORTHWARD...AS A MID-LEVEL TROUGH DEVELOPS OVER THE
423EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND FLORIDA. THEREAFTER...NOEL SHOULD
424RECURVE OR MOVE NORTHEAST WITH INCREASING FORWARD SPEED AWAY FROM
425THE UNITED STATES. IT SHOULD THEN BECOME EXTRATROPICAL BEYOND 3
426DAYS OVER THE OPEN ATLANTIC. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL TRACK
427GUIDANCE WHICH UNANIMOUSLY TURNS NOEL SHARPLY TOWARD THE NORTHEAST
428AWAY FROM FLORIDA IN ABOUT 36 HOURS WHEN THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO
429BE CENTERED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS.  HOWEVER...A TROPICAL
430STORM WATCH MAY STILL BE REQUIRED FOR SOUTHEAST FLORIDA LATER TODAY
431IF NOEL MOVES FATHER WESTWARD THAN ANTICIPATED AND THE WINDS
432EXPAND.
433
434THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS CURRENTLY AFFECTING SOUTHEAST FLORIDA ARE
435ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM TO THE NORTH AND ARE
436NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL. SEE STATEMENTS
437FROM NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICE.
438
439
440FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
441
442INITIAL      30/0900Z 21.3N  76.0W    50 KT
443 12HR VT     30/1800Z 22.2N  77.4W    55 KT
444 24HR VT     31/0600Z 23.3N  78.2W    60 KT
445 36HR VT     31/1800Z 24.5N  78.5W    65 KT
446 48HR VT     01/0600Z 26.0N  77.8W    60 KT
447 72HR VT     02/0600Z 31.0N  72.4W    45 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
448 96HR VT     03/0600Z 37.0N  66.5W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
449120HR VT     04/0600Z 45.0N  58.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
450
451$$
452FORECASTER AVILA
453
454
455WTNT41 KNHC 301500
456TCDAT1
457TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  12
458NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
4591100 AM EDT TUE OCT 30 2007
460
461VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY...RADAR IMAGERY FROM CAMAGUEY CUBA...AND
462SURFACE OBSERVATIONS CLEARLY INDICATE THAT THE CENTER OF NOEL
463REMAINS INLAND OVER EASTERN CUBA.  PLENTY OF RAIN BANDS...
464HOWEVER...STILL EXTEND WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER IN THE EASTERN
465SEMICIRCLE...CONTINUING THE HEAVY RAINS FOR HISPANIOLA THAT HAVE
466ALSO SPREAD INTO THE BAHAMAS.  MY BEST ESTIMATE OF THE MAXIMUM
467WINDS IS 40 KT...WHICH WOULD MOST LIKELY BE OCCURRING IN THE BANDS
468BETWEEN EASTERN CUBA AND THE BAHAMAS.  THE NEXT AIR FORCE
469RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL LATE TONIGHT SINCE
470THE CENTER OF NOEL WILL LIKELY SPEND THE DAY OVER LAND...AS THE
471AIRCRAFT DO NOT TYPICALLY MAKE CENTER FIXES OVER LAND.
472
473THE CIRCULATION CENTER HAS BEEN MOVING GENERALLY WESTWARD OR 270
474DEGREES AT ABOUT 10 KT...TO THE SOUTH OF A LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE.
475AS THAT RIDGE SLIDES EASTWARD DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS A
476SHORT-WAVE TROUGH APPROACHES THE EAST COAST OF THE UNITED
477STATES...NOEL SHOULD EVENTUALLY MOVE NORTHWARD OFF OF CUBA AND
478EVENTUALLY TURN NORTHEASTWARD.  THE TIMING OF THE RECURVATURE IS
479NOT AGREED UPON BY THE VARIOUS MODELS...BUT THE MODEL CONSENSUS
480DOES NOT BRING NOEL BACK OVER WATER UNTIL TOMORROW MORNING...AND
481NEITHER WILL THE OFFICIAL FORECAST.  THE REMAINDER OF THE OFFICIAL
482TRACK IS ALONG THE SAME PATH AS THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY...BUT IS
483SLOWER DURING THE FIRST THREE DAYS.
484
485THE FORECAST OF AN EXTENDED STAY OVER CUBA REQUIRES A LOWER
486INTENSITY FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.  NOEL MIGHT WEAKEN A
487LITTLE MORE TODAY AND TONIGHT OVER LAND.  ONCE IT EMERGES OVER
488WATER AGAIN...IT COULD RESTRENGTHEN AS IT APPROACHES THE
489BAHAMAS...BUT PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS IN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY
490SINCE THE CIRCULATION WILL TAKE TIME TO BECOME REESTABLISHED.  THE
491CHANCES OF NOEL BECOMING A HURRICANE APPEAR LESS NOW...AND MOST OF
492THE OBJECTIVE GUIDANCE DOES NOT FORECAST THIS TO OCCUR.  NOTABLE
493STRENGTHENING COULD OCCUR...HOWEVER...ONCE NOEL BECOMES
494EXTRATROPICAL IN ABOUT THREE DAYS.
495
496THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS CURRENTLY AFFECTING PORTIONS OF FLORIDA ARE
497ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM TO THE NORTH AND ARE
498NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL. SEE STATEMENTS
499FROM NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICE.
500
501
502FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
503
504INITIAL      30/1500Z 21.1N  77.4W    40 KT...INLAND
505 12HR VT     31/0000Z 21.4N  78.3W    35 KT...INLAND
506 24HR VT     31/1200Z 22.5N  78.7W    40 KT...NEAR COAST OF CUBA
507 36HR VT     01/0000Z 24.0N  78.6W    50 KT...OVER WATER
508 48HR VT     01/1200Z 26.2N  77.4W    50 KT
509 72HR VT     02/1200Z 32.5N  71.0W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
510 96HR VT     03/1200Z 39.0N  64.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
511120HR VT     04/1200Z 46.5N  58.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
512
513$$
514FORECASTER KNABB
515
516
517WTNT41 KNHC 302058
518TCDAT1
519TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  13
520NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
521500 PM EDT TUE OCT 30 2007
522
523THE CENTER OF NOEL IS STILL CLEARLY DISCERNIBLE IN VISIBLE SATELLITE
524IMAGERY...HAVING SPENT THE DAY MOVING ESSENTIALLY DUE WESTWARD...
525ALTHOUGH AT A SLIGHTLY SLOWER FORWARD SPEED OF ABOUT 7 KNOTS.
526SURFACE OBSERVATIONS ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE POSITION
527DERIVED FROM THE IMAGERY...ALTHOUGH SOME OF THOSE OBSERVATIONS
528SUGGEST THE CENTER COULD BE A BIT SOUTH OF OUR ADVISORY POSITION.
529THE INITIAL INTENSITY ESTIMATE IS SET TO 35 KT...BASED IN PART ON A
530SURFACE WIND OBSERVATION OF 35 KT FROM A DROPSONDE...WELL TO THE
531NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER...LAUNCHED BY THE NOAA GULFSTREAM-IV JET
532THAT HAS BEGUN ITS SYNOPTIC SURVEILLANCE MISSION.
533
534DESPITE THE CONTINUED WESTWARD MOTION TODAY...NOEL IS STILL EXPECTED
535TO GRADUALLY TURN TOWARD THE NORTH DURING THE NEXT 24-36 HOURS...AS
536THE LOW- TO MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO ITS NORTH SLIDES EASTWARD IN ADVANCE
537OF AN APPROACHING SHORT-WAVE AND FRONTAL SYSTEM.  WHILE THE VARIOUS
538DYNAMICAL MODELS CONTINUE TO DISAGREE ON HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE FOR
539NOEL TO GAIN ANY LATITUDE...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST STAYS CLOSE TO
540THE MODEL CONSENSUS...WHICH IS ALONG THE SAME PATH BUT JUST A
541LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY.  FROM 48 HOURS ON...THE
542NEW TRACK IS ESSENTIALLY UNCHANGED IN TAKING NOEL QUICKLY
543NORTHEASTWARD WHILE UNDERGOING EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.
544
545LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH APPEARS LIKELY UNTIL THE SYSTEM EMERGES
546BACK OVER WATER NORTH OF CUBA.  AFTER THAT...THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY
547FORECAST CLOSELY FOLLOWS THE SHIPS GUIDANCE THROUGH 48 HOURS IN
548CALLING FOR GRADUAL STRENGTHENING WHILE NOEL IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN
549A TROPICAL CYCLONE.  EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION IS EXPECTED BY 72
550HOURS...FOLLOWED BY CONTINUED STRENGTHENING AS SUGGESTED BY THE
551GLOBAL MODELS.  SOME OF THE MODELS PREDICT THAT NOEL ITSELF WILL
552NOT LAST BEYOND ABOUT 3 DAYS...AND INSTEAD CALL FOR NOEL TO BE
553ABSORBED WITHIN THE FRONTAL ZONE OF AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE
554FARTHER NORTH.  FOR NOW...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST WILL ASSUME THAT
555NOEL WILL REMAIN INTACT AND PROVIDE THE FOCUS FOR THE EXTRATROPICAL
556CYCLONE.
557
558THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS CURRENTLY AFFECTING PORTIONS OF FLORIDA ARE
559ASSOCIATED WITH A STRONG HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM TO THE NORTH AND ARE
560NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL. SEE STATEMENTS
561FROM NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICES.
562
563
564FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
565
566INITIAL      30/2100Z 21.0N  78.0W    35 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
567 12HR VT     31/0600Z 21.6N  78.8W    35 KT...NEAR S COAST OF CUBA
568 24HR VT     31/1800Z 22.6N  79.2W    35 KT...NEAR N COAST OF CUBA
569 36HR VT     01/0600Z 24.1N  78.8W    40 KT...OVER WATER
570 48HR VT     01/1800Z 26.8N  77.2W    45 KT
571 72HR VT     02/1800Z 34.0N  70.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
572 96HR VT     03/1800Z 41.0N  63.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
573120HR VT     04/1800Z 48.5N  56.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
574
575$$
576FORECASTER KNABB/LANDSEA
577
578
579WTNT41 KNHC 310238
580TCDAT1
581TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  14
582NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
5831100 PM EDT TUE OCT 30 2007
584
585SURFACE OBSERVATIONS FROM CUBA AND THE CAMAGUEY RADAR INDICATE THE
586THE CENTER IS NOT FAR FROM THE CITY OF CAMAGUEY.  INFRARED IMAGERY
587AND LIGHTNING DATA SHOW THAT INTENSE CONVECTION IS OCCURRING NOT
588FAR EAST AND NORTH OF THE CENTER...BUT SINCE THE SYSTEM HAS
589REMAINED OVER LAND IT IS NOT LIKELY THAT NOEL HAS STRENGTHENED AND
590THE CURRENT INTENSITY IS HELD AT 35 KT.
591
592CENTER FIXES FROM SATELLITE...RADAR...AND SURFACE SYNOPTIC DATA
593SUGGEST THAT NOEL HAS BEEN MOVING ERRATICALLY OVER THE PAST FEW
594HOURS BUT IT APPEARS THAT THE WESTWARD MOTION HAS CEASED.  INITIAL
595MOTION IS ESTIMATED TO BE 315/4.  NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES HAVE BEEN
596MADE TO THE FORECAST TRACK AND THE FORECAST REASONING REMAINS
597BASICALLY UNCHANGED.  A MID-LEVEL RIDGE TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST
598OF NOEL IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE SHIFTING EASTWARD AS A SHORT-WAVE
599TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE NORTHWEST.  THIS STEERING FLOW EVOLUTION
600SHOULD CAUSE THE TROPICAL CYCLONE TO TURN TOWARD THE NORTH AND THEN
601TO THE NORTHEAST...WITH INCREASING FORWARD SPEED AS NOEL GETS
602CAUGHT UP IN THE MID-LATITUDE WESTERLIES.  THE VARIOUS TRACK MODELS
603DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY ON THE FORWARD SPEED AND THE OFFICIAL TRACK
604FORECAST IS RATHER CLOSE TO THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS...CONU.
605
606ONCE THE CENTER OF NOEL EMERGES INTO THE ATLANTIC...THERE WILL BE A
607SHORT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SYSTEM TO STRENGTHEN.
608HOWEVER...IN 36-48 HOURS...WESTERLY SHEAR IS DIAGNOSED BY THE SHIPS
609MODEL TO INCREASE TO AROUND 30 OR 40 KT.  THIS SHOULD TERMINATE ANY
610FURTHER STRENGTHENING OF THE SYSTEM...AT LEAST AS A TROPICAL
611CYCLONE.  IN 3 TO 5 DAYS...THE GLOBAL MODELS TRANSFORM NOEL INTO A
612VIGOROUS EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.  THIS IS ALSO INDICATED BY THE
613OFFICIAL FORECAST.
614
615THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS CURRENTLY AFFECTING PORTIONS OF FLORIDA ARE
616ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN A STRONG HIGH OVER
617THE U.S. EAST COAST AND NOEL...BUT ARE NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH
618THE CIRCULATION OF THE TROPICAL STORM.  SEE STATEMENTS FROM NWS
619LOCAL FORECAST OFFICES.
620
621FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
622
623INITIAL      31/0300Z 21.4N  78.1W    35 KT
624 12HR VT     31/1200Z 22.1N  78.8W    35 KT...INLAND OVER CUBA
625 24HR VT     01/0000Z 23.3N  78.8W    40 KT...OVER WATER
626 36HR VT     01/1200Z 25.1N  78.0W    45 KT
627 48HR VT     02/0000Z 27.6N  76.5W    45 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
628 72HR VT     03/0000Z 34.5N  69.5W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
629 96HR VT     04/0000Z 42.0N  62.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
630120HR VT     05/0000Z 51.0N  55.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
631
632$$
633FORECASTER PASCH/BLAKE
634
635
636WTNT41 KNHC 310847
637TCDAT1
638TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  15
639NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
640500 AM EDT WED OCT 31 2007
641
642SURFACE AND RADAR OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT THE CENTER OF NOEL IS
643APPROACHING THE NORTHERN COAST OF CUBA NEAR CAYO COCO.  RADAR AND
644SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOW A LARGE AREA OF STRONG CONVECTIVE BANDS
645NORTH AND EAST OF THE CENTER...ALTHOUGH THERE IS LITTLE CONVECTION
646NEAR THE CENTER AT THIS TIME.  A SURFACE OBSERVATION AT CAYO COCO
647SUGGESTS THE CENTRAL PRESSURE IS NEAR 1000 MB...AND AN EARLIER
648ASCAT OVERPASS SUGGESTS THE MAXIMUM WINDS REMAIN NEAR 35 KT.
649
650NOEL HAS TURNED TO THE RIGHT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS.  THE 12 HR
651MOTION IS 330/6...AND THE SHORT-TERM MOTION MAY EVEN BE MORE TOWARD
652THE NORTH.  IT IS UNCLEAR WHETHER THIS IS AN EARLY START OF THE
653FORECAST NORTHWARD TURN...OR IF IT IS A RE-FORMATION OF THE CENTER.
654THE DYNAMICAL MODELS SHOW FOUR POSSIBLE SCENARIOS FOR NOEL BASED ON
655INTERACTIONS WITH A MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH MOVING EASTWARD ACROSS
656THE GULF OF MEXICO AND A DEEP-LAYER TROUGH MOVING INTO THE EASTERN
657UNITED STATES.  THE FIRST...SUPPORTED BY THE NOGAPS...THE GFDL...
658AND THE HWRF...IS FOR NOEL TO RECURVE INTO THE WESTERLIES AND
659BECOME A STRONG EXTRATROPICAL LOW OVER THE NORTHWESTERN ATLANTIC.
660THE SECOND...SUPPORTED BY THE GFS...IS FOR AN EXTRATROPICAL LOW TO
661FORM OFF THE FLORIDA COAST WHICH ABSORBS NOEL.  THE THIRD...
662SUPPORTED BY THE UKMET...IS FOR AN EXTRATROPICAL LOW TO FORM OFF
663THE FLORIDA COAST WITH IT AND NOEL MOVING NORTHEASTWARD IN TANDEM.
664THE FOURTH...SUPPORTED BY THE ECMWF...IS FOR AN EXTRATROPICAL LOW
665TO FORM OFF THE FLORIDA COAST AND A WEAKENING NOEL BEING DRIVEN
666SOUTHWESTWARD INTO THE CARIBBEAN BY THE ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT.  THE
667OFFICIAL FORECAST WILL FOLLOW THE FIRST SCENARIO...WITH NOEL
668RECURVING INTO THE WESTERLIES DURING THE NEXT 24-36 HR AND THEN
669ACCELERATING NORTHEASTWARD.  THE TRACK FORECAST IS IN GOOD OVERALL
670AGREEMENT WITH THE VARIOUS CONSENSUS MODELS.
671
672ANALYSES FROM CIMSS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN INDICATE NOEL IS
673EXPERIENCING 20-25 KT OF WESTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR...MUCH OF IT
674DUE TO STRONG LOW-LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW.  AS NOEL MOVES OFF CUBA...
675THERE WILL BE A 24 HR OR SO PERIOD OF DECREASED SHEAR THAT COULD
676ALLOW SOME STRENGTHENING.  AFTER THAT...INTENSIFICATION AS A
677TROPICAL CYCLONE SHOULD STOP AS NOEL ENCOUNTERS STRONGER SHEAR AND
678BEGINS EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.  THE CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO
679STRENGTHEN FURTHER AFTER BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL...WITH A PEAK
680INTENSITY OF 60 KT.
681
682THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS THAT CONTINUE TO AFFECT PORTIONS OF FLORIDA
683ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN A STRONG HIGH
684OVER THE U.S. EAST COAST AND NOEL...BUT ARE NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED
685WITH THE CIRCULATION OF THE TROPICAL STORM.  SEE STATEMENTS FROM
686NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICES.
687
688
689FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
690
691INITIAL      31/0900Z 22.1N  78.2W    35 KT...INLAND
692 12HR VT     31/1800Z 22.9N  78.7W    40 KT...OVER WATER
693 24HR VT     01/0600Z 23.9N  78.7W    45 KT
694 36HR VT     01/1800Z 25.6N  77.8W    45 KT
695 48HR VT     02/0600Z 28.0N  75.7W    45 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
696 72HR VT     03/0600Z 35.0N  69.0W    50 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
697 96HR VT     04/0600Z 44.0N  61.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
698120HR VT     05/0600Z 54.0N  53.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
699
700$$
701FORECASTER BEVEN
702
703
704WTNT41 KNHC 311505
705TCDAT1
706TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  16
707NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
7081100 AM EDT WED OCT 31 2007
709
710AIRCRAFT RECONNAISSANCE DATA INDICATE THAT NOEL HAS STRENGTHENED
711AFTER MOVING OFF THE NORTH COAST OF CUBA.  MAXIMUM FLIGHT LEVEL
712WINDS WERE 53 KT OUTSIDE OF THE DEEP CONVECTION...WHICH HASN'T BEEN
713SAMPLED YET...AND SFMR DATA HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND 45 KT.  THE
714ADVISORY INTENSITY IS INCREASED TO 45 KT.  THE CENTER IS DISPLACED
715ABOUT 30-40 NM FROM THE DEEP CONVECTION...BUT THE ORGANIZATION HAS
716IMPROVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS.  ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS
717EXPECTED BEFORE SOUTHWESTERLY WIND SHEAR INCREASES IN ABOUT 36-48
718HOURS.  THE OFFICIAL FORECAST SHOWS SOME WEAKENING DUE TO SHEAR
719BEFORE THE SYSTEM RESTRENGTHENS AS AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.
720
721THE INITIAL MOTION IS 345/7.  THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE TO THE
722TRACK FORECAST...WHICH CALLS FOR NOEL TO TURN NORTHWARD AND THEN
723NORTHEASTWARD AHEAD OF A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH CURRENTLY MOVING
724THROUGH THE GULF OF MEXICO.  ALTHOUGH THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE NOT IN
725GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE CURRENT SURFACE CIRCULATION
726OF NOEL...THEY ALL TAKE EITHER NOEL OR A NEW EXTRATROPICAL
727DEVELOPMENT RAPIDLY NORTHEASTWARD.  GIVEN THE BETTER ASSOCIATION OF
728NOEL'S CIRCULATION WITH THE DEEP CONVECTION OBSERVED THIS
729MORNING...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS CONTINUITY WITH THE
730PREVIOUS ADVISORY AND PRESUMES THAT NOEL WILL BE THE PRIMARY
731CIRCULATION.  THE TRACK REPRESENTS A BLEND OF THE HWRF AND GFDL
732TRACKS FOR NOEL AND THE GFS TRACK FOR THE NEW EXTRATROPICAL LOW.
733
734THE STRONG GUSTY WINDS THAT CONTINUE TO AFFECT PORTIONS OF FLORIDA
735ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN A STRONG HIGH
736OVER THE U.S. EAST COAST AND NOEL...BUT ARE NOT DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED
737WITH THE CIRCULATION OF THE TROPICAL STORM.  THIS DISTINCTION MAY
738BECOME LESS CLEAR AS NOEL APPROACHES...AND IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO
739TRANSITION TO A TROPICAL STORM WARNING.  REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE
740WARNING IS CALLED...WINDS NEAR THE LOW-END TROPICAL STORM/GALE
741THRESHHOLD WILL CONTINUE TO OCCUR ALONG THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST
742FOR THE NEXT DAY OR SO.  PLEASE REFER TO STATEMENTS ISSUED BY LOCAL
743NWS FORECAST OFFICES.
744
745FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
746
747INITIAL      31/1500Z 22.7N  78.5W    45 KT
748 12HR VT     01/0000Z 23.9N  78.6W    55 KT
749 24HR VT     01/1200Z 25.1N  78.2W    55 KT
750 36HR VT     02/0000Z 27.0N  76.7W    50 KT
751 48HR VT     02/1200Z 30.0N  73.9W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
752 72HR VT     03/1200Z 36.0N  67.0W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
753 96HR VT     04/1200Z 45.0N  60.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
754120HR VT     05/1200Z 55.0N  51.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
755
756$$
757FORECASTER FRANKLIN
758
759
760WTNT41 KNHC 312038
761TCDAT1
762TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  17
763NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
764500 PM EDT WED OCT 31 2007
765
766THE CENTER OF NOEL DRIFTED WESTWARD FOR A FEW HOURS AROUND
767MIDDAY...BUT RECENTLY HAS BEEN NEARLY STATIONARY...OR PERHAPS
768MAKING A SMALL CYCLONIC LOOP...JUST OFFSHORE OF THE NORTH COAST OF
769CUBA. THE CENTER IS NOT AS WELL CONNECTED TO THE DEEP CONVECTION AS
770IT WAS SEVERAL HOURS AGO...BUT THE OFFICIAL FORECAST PRESUMES THAT
771THE TWO WILL NOT COMPLETELY SEPARATE. INDEED...THERE WAS SOME
772EVIDENCE IN THE RECON DATA AROUND 18Z THAT A SECOND VORTICITY
773CENTER WAS TRYING TO DEVELOP IN THE CONVECTION TO THE NORTHEAST OF
774THE SURFACE CENTER. SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF A MID-LEVEL TROUGH
775IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IS ADVANCING TOWARD THE CYCLONE...AND THIS IS
776EXPECTED TO INDUCE A NORTHWARD AND THEN NORTHEASTWARD ACCELERATION
777OF NOEL. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS A GFDL/HWRF/GFS
778BLEND...EXCEPT FOR BEING A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE GUIDANCE AND THE
779PREVIOUS FORECAST DURING THE FIRST 24 HOURS.
780
781THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 45 KT BASED ON FLIGHT-LEVEL AND SFMR
782DATA.  THERE COULD BE SOME STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT 24
783HOURS...BEFORE SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR INCREASES AND EXTRATROPICAL
784TRANSITION BEGINS.  GLOBAL MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO INDICATE
785NOEL WILL BECOME A VIGOROUS EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.
786
787WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRESSURE GRADIENT HAVE
788DECREASED BELOW GALE FORCE ALONG THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST.
789RECONNAISSANCE DATA INDICATE THAT THE WIND FIELD OF NOEL HAS
790EXPANDED IN THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST NOW
791BRINGS TROPICAL STORM WINDS TO NEAR THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST.
792SINCE ANY SUBSEQUENT INCREASE IN WINDS AT THE COAST WOULD BE
793ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROPICAL STORM...A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS
794BEING ISSUED AT THIS TIME. WHILE A WATCH IS USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH
795A LONGER LEAD TIME THAN A WARNING...IT ALSO CONVEYS THE
796POSSIBILITY...AS OPPOSED TO THE EXPECTATION...OF TROPICAL STORM
797CONDITIONS.  BECAUSE THE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WIND RADII ARE
798FORECAST TO REMAIN OFFSHORE...A WATCH IS MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A
799WARNING.  THE NEED FOR A WARNING WILL BE REASSESSED THIS EVENING.
800
801
802FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
803
804INITIAL      31/2100Z 22.6N  78.8W    45 KT
805 12HR VT     01/0600Z 23.5N  79.0W    50 KT
806 24HR VT     01/1800Z 25.3N  78.1W    55 KT
807 36HR VT     02/0600Z 28.0N  76.0W    50 KT
808 48HR VT     02/1800Z 31.5N  72.5W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
809 72HR VT     03/1800Z 39.0N  66.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
810 96HR VT     04/1800Z 49.0N  57.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
811120HR VT     05/1800Z 60.0N  47.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
812
813$$
814FORECASTER FRANKLIN
815
816
817WTNT41 KNHC 010238
818TCDAT1
819TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  18
820NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
8211100 PM EDT WED OCT 31 2007
822
823SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW THAT DEEP CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH NOEL HAS
824DRAMATICALLY INCREASED DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS...BUT THE LOW-LEVEL
825CENTER IS STILL LOCATED ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THIS LARGE AREA OF
826THUNDERSTORMS. ALTHOUGH THE CLOUD PATTERN IS A LITTLE BETTER
827ORGANIZED THAN EARLIER TODAY...THE DISPLACEMENT OF THE LOW-LEVEL
828CENTER FROM THE DEEP CONVECTION SUGGESTS THAT NOEL HAS NOT
829STRENGTHENED SIGNIFICANTLY. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS 50 KT...BASED
830ON EARLIER RECONNAISSANCE DATA AND THESE WINDS ARE MAINLY OCCURRING
831TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE CENTER. THE OUTFLOW IS STILL NOT VERY
832DISRUPTED BY THE INCOMING SHEAR AND GIVEN THE INCREASE IN
833CONVECTION...NOEL STILL HAS THE CHANCE TO STRENGTHEN DURING THE
834NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. THEREAFTER...THE CYCLONE IS EXPECTED TO BECOME
835A STRONG EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE AS IT INTERACTS WITH AN APPROACHING
836MID-LATITUDE TROUGH AND FRONTAL ZONE.
837
838AFTER A LONG TIME OVER CUBA OR NEARBY...NOEL HAS BEGUN TO MOVE VERY
839SLOWLY NORTHWARD AT ABOUT 3 KNOTS AWAY FROM THE ISLAND. NOEL IS
840EXPECTED TO CONTINUE MOVING SLOWLY NORTHWARD FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS
841BUT THE PREVAILING WEAK STEERING CURRENTS ARE BEGINNING TO CHANGE
842AND SOON...NOEL WILL LIKELY BE EMBEDDED WITHIN THE INCREASING
843SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. THIS PATTERN
844WILL FORCE NOEL TO TURN MORE TO THE NORTHEAST WITH AN INCREASE IN
845FORWARD SPEED. ON THIS TRACK...NOEL WILL BE AFFECTING THE
846NORTHWESTERN AND CENTRAL BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.
847
848SINCE NOEL IS ALREADY MOVING NORTHWARD AND IS FORECAST TO TURN
849NORTHEASTWARD AWAY FROM FLORIDA...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
850ARE FORECAST TO REMAIN OFFSHORE ...THE ISSUANCE OF TROPICAL STORM
851WARNING IS NOT REQUIRED TONIGHT. HOWEVER...ANY UNEXPECTED INCREASE
852IN THE WIND RADII WEST OF THE CYCLONE OR A DEVIATION TO THE LEFT OF
853THE FORECAST TRACK COULD PROMPT THE ISSUANCE OF A TROPICAL STORM
854WARNING.
855
856BOTH TRACK AND INTENSITY FORECASTS FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE. IN FACT...
857ALL THE AVAILABLE DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE IS CONSISTENT IN STRENGTHENING
858NOEL A LITTLE...TURNING IT NORTHEASTWARD...AND MAKING IT
859EXTRATROPICAL IN 2 DAYS.
860
861
862FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
863
864INITIAL      01/0300Z 23.2N  78.5W    50 KT
865 12HR VT     01/1200Z 24.3N  78.3W    60 KT
866 24HR VT     02/0000Z 26.5N  77.0W    60 KT
867 36HR VT     02/1200Z 29.5N  74.0W    55 KT
868 48HR VT     03/0000Z 33.5N  70.5W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
869 72HR VT     04/0000Z 42.0N  63.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
870 96HR VT     05/0000Z 50.0N  53.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
871120HR VT     06/0000Z 55.0N  42.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
872
873$$
874FORECASTER AVILA
875
876
877WTNT41 KNHC 010901
878TCDAT1
879TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  19
880NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
881500 AM EDT THU NOV 01 2007
882
883NOEL PRODUCED A MAJOR BURST OF CONVECTION EAST OF THE CENTER EARLIER
884THIS MORNING...WITH CLOUD TOP TEMPERATURES NEAR -90C AT TIMES.
885HOWEVER...THE BURST HAS ENDED...WITH RADAR DATA FROM MIAMI...
886NASSAU...AND CAMAGUEY CURRENTLY SHOWING LITTLE PRECIPITATION NEAR
887THE CENTER.  MAJOR COMMUNICATIONS PROBLEMS HAVE DISRUPTED THE FLOW
888OF DATA FROM THE AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
889MONITORING NOEL.  HOWEVER...THE PLANE REPORTED THAT THE CENTRAL
890PRESSURE HAD FALLEN TO 992 MB AT 05Z.  BASED ON THAT AND SATELLITE
891INTENSITY ESTIMATES...THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 50 KT.
892
893THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT ERRATIC 000/5.  WATER VAPOR IMAGERY
894AND MODEL ANALYSES INDICATE THAT A LARGE MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH IS
895MOVING INTO THE EASTERN UNITED STATES...WITH THE LOW/MID-LEVEL
896RIDGE OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC MOVING EASTWARD.  THE DYNAMICAL
897MODELS NOW AGREE THAT NOEL WILL BE PICKED UP BY THE TROUGH...
898MOVING SLOWLY NORTHWARD FOR 12 HR OR SO AND THEN ACCELERATING
899NORTHEASTWARD.  THE NEW FORECAST TRACK IS AN UPDATE OF THE PREVIOUS
900TRACK THROUGH 36 HR...AND THEN IS SOMEWHAT TO THE LEFT OF THE
901PREVIOUS TRACK THEREAFTER IN RESPONSE TO A LEFTWARD SHIFT IN THE
902MODEL CONSENSUS.  IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE MOTION DURING THE
903FIRST 12 HR COULD BE ERRATIC DUE TO RE-FORMATION OF THE CENTER
904CAUSED BY CONVECTIVE BURSTS.
905
906NOEL HAS AN IMPRESSIVE OUTFLOW PATTERN...ESPECIALLY IN THE
907NORTHEASTERN SEMICIRCLE.  HOWEVER...RAWINSONDE DATA FROM KEY WEST
908AND MIAMI SHOW THAT THE OUTFLOW IS CONFINED TO ABOVE 200 MB...WITH
90920-30 KT OF WESTERLY FLOW BETWEEN 200-400 MB UNDERCUTTING THE
910OUTFLOW AND CAUSING SHEAR.  THE SHEAR IS LIKELY TO INCREASE BY 24
911HR...LEAVING ONLY A SMALL WINDOW FOR NOEL TO INTENSIFY AS A
912TROPICAL CYCLONE.  THE INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR NOEL TO
913STRENGTHEN TO 60 KT IN 12 HR IN ANTICIPATION OF ANOTHER CONVECTIVE
914BURST SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT JUST FINISHED.  AFTER THAT...
915INCREASING SHEAR SHOULD STOP DEVELOPMENT.  ALL DYNAMICAL MODELS
916FORECAST NOEL TO BECOME A LARGE AND INTENSE EXTRATROPICAL LOW OVER
917THE WESTERN ATLANTIC STARING IN 36-48 HR...AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN
918BOTH THE INTENSITY AND WIND RADII FORECASTS.
919
920THE AIRCRAFT FOUND A BAND OF TROPICAL STORM-FORCE WINDS ABOUT
921100-115 N MI FROM THE CENTER IN THE NORTHWESTERN QUADRANT....WITH
922THE AIRCRAFT DATA SUPPORTED BY DOPPLER WINDS FROM THE MIAMI WSR-88D
923AND A 37 KT SHIP REPORT AT 06Z.  THESE WINDS ARE CLOSE ENOUGH TO
924THE FLORIDA COAST THAT ANY DEVIATION TO THE LEFT OF THE FORECAST
925TRACK WOULD BRING THEM ON TO THE FLORIDA COAST.  THUS...A TROPICAL
926STORM WARNING IS BEING ISSUED AT THIS TIME FOR THE IMMEDIATE
927COASTAL AREA OF MIAMI-DADE AND BROWARD COUNTIES.
928
929
930FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
931
932INITIAL      01/0900Z 23.7N  78.5W    50 KT
933 12HR VT     01/1800Z 25.0N  78.1W    60 KT
934 24HR VT     02/0600Z 27.2N  76.2W    60 KT
935 36HR VT     02/1800Z 30.5N  73.4W    55 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
936 48HR VT     03/0600Z 34.8N  70.1W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
937 72HR VT     04/0600Z 43.5N  63.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
938 96HR VT     05/0600Z 53.0N  52.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
939120HR VT     06/0600Z 57.5N  42.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
940
941$$
942FORECASTER BEVEN
943
944
945WTNT41 KNHC 011500
946TCDAT1
947TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  20
948NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
9491100 AM EDT THU NOV 01 2007
950
951DATA PHONED IN FROM THE AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT
952INVESTIGATING NOEL INCLUDE PEAK FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS OF 53 KT AND
953SFMR SURFACE WINDS OF 51 KT.  THESE DATA SUPPORT THE CURRENT
954INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF 50 KT.  THE CENTER FIXES HAVE BEEN BOUNCING
955ABOUT IN RESPONSE TO CONVECTIVE BURSTS...BUT OVERALL INDICATE THAT
956THE TURN TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST HAS BEGUN.  THE INITIAL MOTION
957ESTIMATE IS 020/8.
958
959THERE HAS BEEN LITTLE CHANGE TO THE TRACK FORECAST PHILOSOPHY.  MID-
960TO UPPER-LEVEL SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW IS ADVANCING TOWARD NOEL FROM THE
961GULF OF MEXICO...AND THIS FLOW IS EXPECTED TO ACCELERATE NOEL
962NORTHNORTHEASTWARD.  MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE
963HEADING BUT LESS SO ON THE SPEED...AND THE OFFICIAL FORECAST FAVORS
964A GFS/GFDL/HWRF BLEND.
965
966WITH THE RECENT JUMP OF THE CENTER CLOSER TO THE CONVECTION...THERE
967IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME STRENGTHENING OVER THE NEXT 12-18
968HOURS...BEFORE THE WIND SHEAR BECOMES PROHIBITIVE.  HOWEVER...
969BAROCLINIC ENERGY IS EXPECTED TO RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT
970STRENGTHENING AFTER EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION IN ABOUT 36 HOURS.
971
972AS NOEL IS EXPECTED TO EDGE AWAY FROM SOUTH FLORIDA THIS
973AFTERNOON...IT SHOULD SOON BE POSSIBLE TO LOWER THE TROPICAL STORM
974WARNING.
975
976
977FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
978
979INITIAL      01/1500Z 24.5N  77.8W    50 KT
980 12HR VT     02/0000Z 25.8N  76.9W    60 KT
981 24HR VT     02/1200Z 28.4N  74.9W    55 KT
982 36HR VT     03/0000Z 32.0N  72.0W    55 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
983 48HR VT     03/1200Z 36.0N  69.0W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
984 72HR VT     04/1200Z 46.0N  61.0W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
985 96HR VT     05/1200Z 56.5N  50.0W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
986120HR VT     06/1200Z 67.0N  25.0W    45 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
987
988$$
989FORECASTER FRANKLIN
990
991
992WTNT41 KNHC 012035
993TCDAT1
994TROPICAL STORM NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  21
995NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
996500 PM EDT THU NOV 01 2007
997
998THE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT INVESTIGATING NOEL REPORTED PEAK FLIGHT
999LEVEL WINDS AT 850 MB OF 66 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT...AND PEAK
1000SFMR WINDS OF 53 KT. ON THIS BASIS...THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS
1001INCREASED TO 55 KT. THE AIRCRAFT ALSO REPORTED THAT THE LOW-LEVEL
1002CENTER WAS BECOMING DISTORTED AND ELONGATED SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST.
1003WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A MID-LEVEL SHORT WAVE MOVING THROUGH THE
1004FLORIDA STRAITS AND BEGINNING TO INTERACT WITH NOEL...SIGNALING THE
1005START OF EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION. WITHIN ANOTHER 12 HOURS OR
1006SO...THE SHEAR BECOMES PROHIBITIVE FOR STRENGTHENING AS A TROPICAL
1007CYCLONE...SO THERE IS ONLY A SHORT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR NOEL
1008TO BECOME A CANE. HOWEVER...AFTER EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION...GLOBAL
1009MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THAT NOEL WILL BECOME AN EXTREMELY LARGE
1010AND POWERFUL CYCLONE.
1011
1012NOEL IS ACCELERATING IN THE SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE
1013APPROACHING TROUGH...AND THE INITIAL MOTION IS 030/12. A SECOND
1014MID-LATITUDE TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH THE CYCLONE AND CUT OFF
1015OVER THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES IN 36 HOURS. THIS FORECAST PATTERN
1016RESULTS IN A TRACK FOR NOEL A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE U.S. EAST
1017COAST...AND WITH THE FORECAST EXPANSION OF THE WIND RADII...IS
1018EXPECTED TO RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT EXTRATROPICAL WIND EVENT FROM
1019THE NORTH CAROLINA OUTER BANKS NORTHWARD. PLEASE CONSULT STATEMENTS
1020FROM YOUR NWS LOCAL FORECAST OFFICE. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST HAS BEEN
1021ADJUSTED WESTWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY BUT IS STILL TO THE
1022RIGHT OF THE MODEL CONSENSUS. ADDITIONAL WESTWARD ADJUSTMENTS MAY
1023BE NECESSARY THIS EVENING.
1024
1025
1026FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
1027
1028INITIAL      01/2100Z 25.5N  77.1W    55 KT
1029 12HR VT     02/0600Z 27.6N  75.8W    60 KT
1030 24HR VT     02/1800Z 30.7N  73.8W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1031 36HR VT     03/0600Z 34.5N  71.5W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1032 48HR VT     03/1800Z 39.0N  68.5W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1033 72HR VT     04/1800Z 50.5N  60.5W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1034 96HR VT     05/1800Z 60.0N  52.5W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1035120HR VT     06/1800Z...DISSIPATED
1036
1037$$
1038FORECASTER FRANKLIN
1039
1040
1041WTNT41 KNHC 020240
1042TCDAT1
1043HURRICANE NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  22
1044NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
10451100 PM EDT THU NOV 01 2007
1046
1047SATELLITE IMAGES SHOWED A LARGE AND ROUND VERY STRONG CONVECTIVE
1048MASS WITH UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW ASSOCIATED WITH NOEL. AN AIR FORCE
1049RECONNAISSANCE PLANE ENTERED THE CIRCULATION OF NOEL AND MEASURED A
1050MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 981 MB WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP FROM
1051EARLIER FLIGHTS. WINDS AT FLIGHT-LEVEL HAVE INCREASED TO THE NORTH
1052OF THE CENTER AND PEAKED AT 81 KNOTS...AND THE MAXIMUM MEASURED SFMR
1053SURFACE WINDS WERE 69 KNOTS. THE INITIAL INTENSITY WAS ADJUSTED
1054UPWARD TO 70 KNOTS. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES ALSO SUPPORT THE
1055INCREASE IN THE WINDS...AND A 0022 UTC SSM/IS PASS DEPICTED AN EYE
1056FEATURE.  NOEL COULD BECOME A LITTLE STRONGER DURING THE NEXT 12
1057HOURS OR SO BUT THEREAFTER...IT SHOULD GRADUALLY BECOME
1058EXTRATROPICAL AS THE CYCLONE INTERACTS WITH THE MID-LATITUDE
1059CIRCULATION AND A COOLER OCEAN.  IT IS EMPHASIZED THAT IT IS VERY
1060DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THE EXACT TIMING OF THE EXTRATROPICAL
1061TRANSITION.  AT THIS TIME...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST CALLS FOR THE
1062TRANSITION TO OCCUR IN ABOUT 24 HOURS...BUT IT COULD BE DELAYED
1063SINCE SOME OF THE MODELS SUGGEST THAT THIS PROCESS MAY OCCUR A
1064LITTLE BIT LATER. NEVERTHELESS NOEL IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A LARGE
1065AND POWERFUL EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE.
1066
1067NOEL IS ALREADY EMBEDDED WITHIN THE STRONG AND ACCELERATING
1068SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF A MID-LATITUDE TROUGH AND THE
1069CYCLONE IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST OR 030 DEGREES AT 17
1070KNOTS. FROM THIS POINT ON...THE CYCLONE CAN ONLY ACCELERATE AND
1071CONTINUE ON THE SAME GENERAL TRACK. THIS IS THE SOLUTION PROVIDED
1072BY MOST OF THE NUMERICAL GUIDANCE. ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT A
1073POWERFUL EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE WILL MOVE OVER NOVA SCOTIA IN A
1074COUPLE OF DAYS.  DETAILS ON THE EFFECTS OF THE EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE
1075IN THE CANADIAN MARITIMES PRIMARILY NOVA SCOTIA ARE INCLUDED IN
1076PRODUCTS ISSUED BY THE CANADIAN HURRICANE CENTRE OF ENVIRONMENT
1077CANADA.
1078
1079NOTE: LATEST DATA FROM THE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE SUGGEST THAT THE
1080CIRCULATION AND WINDS ARE EXPANDING OVER THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE.
1081
1082
1083FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
1084
1085INITIAL      02/0300Z 27.3N  76.1W    70 KT
1086 12HR VT     02/1200Z 29.5N  74.7W    75 KT
1087 24HR VT     03/0000Z 33.0N  72.5W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1088 36HR VT     03/1200Z 37.5N  69.5W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1089 48HR VT     04/0000Z 42.5N  66.5W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1090 72HR VT     05/0000Z 53.0N  58.5W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1091 96HR VT     06/0000Z 62.5N  50.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1092120HR VT     07/0000Z...DISSIPATED
1093
1094$$
1095FORECASTER AVILA
1096
1097
1098WTNT41 KNHC 020850
1099TCDAT1
1100HURRICANE NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  23
1101NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
1102500 AM EDT FRI NOV 02 2007
1103
1104AT ABOUT 05Z...AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT
1105REPORTED SURFACE WINDS OF 70 KT JUST WEST OF THE CENTER BY
1106DROPSONDE AND THE STEPPED FREQUENCY MICROWAVE RADIOMETER.  THE
1107AIRCRAFT ALSO REPORTED A CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 981 MB...AND 700 MB
1108FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS OF 89 KT WELL TO THE EAST OF THE CENTER.  THE
1109INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 70 KT BASED ON THIS DATA.
1110
1111THE INITIAL MOTION IS 030/16.  NOEL IS NOW EMBEDDED IN A STRONG
1112SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH A DEVELOPING DEEP-LAYER
1113TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES.  THE TRACK GUIDANCE
1114FORECASTS THIS PATTERN TO CAUSE THE CURRENT MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH
1115SOME ACCELERATION...BRINGING NOEL NEAR OR OVER NOVA SCOTIA IN ABOUT
111648 HR.  A NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD MOTION SHOULD CONTINUE THEREAFTER
1117UNTIL THE CYCLONE DISSIPATES AT VERY HIGH LATITUDES.
1118
1119NOEL IS NOW MOVING OVER SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES COLDER THAN
112026C...AND THE CONVECTIVE TOPS ARE BEGINNING TO WARM.  THIS SUGGESTS
1121THAT THE SYSTEM WILL NOT STRENGTHEN ANY MORE AS A TROPICAL CYCLONE.
1122NOEL SHOULD BEGIN LOSING TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS LATER TODAY AND
1123COMPLETE EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION BY 24 HR.  IT IS FORECAST TO
1124MAINTAIN HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS DURING THE TRANSITION...AND THE
1125INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR SOME STRENGTHENING BETWEEN 24-48 HR IN
1126AGREEMENT WITH THE GFDL AND HWRF MODELS.  THE GLOBAL MODELS
1127FORECAST NOEL TO WEAKEN AFTER 48 HR AND DISSIPATE BY 120 HR...AND
1128THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE INTENSITY FORECAST.
1129
1130SURFACE OBSERVATIONS FROM NOAA BUOY 41047...QUIKSCAT DATA...AND
1131AIRCRAFT REPORTS INDICATE THAT NOEL HAS BECOME SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER
1132IN SIZE DURING THE NIGHT.  THIS HAS CAUSED SIGNIFICANT REVISION TO
1133BOTH THE INITIAL AND FORECAST WIND RADII.
1134
1135FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
1136
1137INITIAL      02/0900Z 28.4N  75.2W    70 KT
1138 12HR VT     02/1800Z 31.2N  73.6W    70 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
1139 24HR VT     03/0600Z 35.4N  71.2W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1140 36HR VT     03/1800Z 40.0N  68.7W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1141 48HR VT     04/0600Z 44.9N  65.0W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL INLAND
1142 72HR VT     05/0600Z 56.0N  56.5W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1143 96HR VT     06/0600Z 64.5N  50.0W    40 KT...EXTRATROPICAL INLAND
1144120HR VT     07/0600Z...DISSIPATED
1145
1146$$
1147FORECASTER BEVEN
1148
1149
1150WTNT41 KNHC 021450
1151TCDAT1
1152HURRICANE NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  24
1153NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
11541100 AM EDT FRI NOV 02 2007
1155
1156THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 70 KT...BASED ON AN SFMR REPORT OF 69
1157KT ABOUT 45 NMI NORTH OF THE CENTER.  THE SATELLITE APPEARANCE OF
1158NOEL IS DETERIORATING RAPIDLY...HOWEVER...WITH DEEP CONVECTION
1159EVAPORATING OVER THE CENTER.  THE RECONNAISSANCE DATA AT 12Z STILL
1160SHOWED A DISTINCT WARM CORE AT 700 MB...AND CO-LOCATED SURFACE AND
1161700 MB CENTERS...SO NOEL REMAINS A TROPICAL CYCLONE FOR NOW.  IF
1162THE CORE CONVECTION CONTINUES TO DECAY AT ITS PRESENT RATE...NOEL
1163WILL LIKELY BE DECLARED EXTRATROPICAL THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS
1164EVENING.  WHILE NOEL MIGHT WEAKEN A LITTLE BIT AS THE CORE DECAYS
1165OVER 26C WATERS...THE DYNAMICAL MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES SOME
1166STRENGTHENING AFTER EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.
1167
1168THE INITIAL MOTION IS 040/15...WHICH IS A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT OF THE
1169PREVIOUS MOTION.  NOEL REMAINS EMBEDDED IN A STRONG SOUTH-
1170SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ASSOCIATED WITH A DEVELOPING DEEP-LAYER
1171TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES.   AS THIS TROUGH DIGS IN
1172BEHIND NOEL...A RETURN TO THE PREVIOUS NORTH-NORTHEASTWARD HEADING
1173IS EXPECTED.  MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN UNUSUALLY GOOD AGREEMENT AND THE
1174OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS.
1175
1176SURFACE OBSERVATIONS FROM NOAA BUOY 41047 WERE USED TO EXPAND THE 50
1177KT WIND RADII IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT.
1178
1179
1180FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
1181
1182INITIAL      02/1500Z 29.2N  73.8W    70 KT
1183 12HR VT     03/0000Z 32.5N  71.5W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1184 24HR VT     03/1200Z 37.1N  69.7W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1185 36HR VT     04/0000Z 41.8N  66.9W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1186 48HR VT     04/1200Z 47.5N  62.5W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1187 72HR VT     05/1200Z 58.0N  54.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1188 96HR VT     06/1200Z 67.0N  47.0W    35 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1189120HR VT     07/1200Z...DISSIPATED
1190
1191$$
1192FORECASTER FRANKLIN
1193
1194
1195WTNT41 KNHC 022052
1196TCDAT1
1197HURRICANE NOEL DISCUSSION NUMBER  25
1198NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   AL162007
1199500 PM EDT FRI NOV 02 2007
1200
1201NOEL IS MAKING THE TRANSITION TO AN EXTRATROPICAL CYCLONE THIS
1202AFTERNOON.  AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE DATA AROUND 17Z SHOWED PEAK
1203FLIGHT LEVEL WINDS OF 90 KT...THOUGH SFMR OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT
1204THE INTENSITY IS STILL NEAR 70 KT.  THE AIRCRAFT DATA ALSO
1205INDICATED THAT NOEL STILL DISPLAYED A WARM CORE AND A FAIRLY TIGHT
1206RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS.  SINCE THEN...THE INNER CORE CONVECTION
1207HAS SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED AND IS NOW INSUFFICIENT TO QUALIFY
1208NOEL AS A TROPICAL CYCLONE.  IN ADDITION...THE FSU CYCLONE PHASE
1209SPACE DIAGRAM SUGGESTS THAT NOEL'S THERMODYNAMIC STRUCTURE IS
1210BEGINNING TO BECOME ASYMMETRIC AND FRONTAL.  THUS THIS WILL BE THE
1211LAST NOEL ADVISORY.
1212
1213CURRENT MOTION IS 040/17.  THE MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO HAVE
1214SMALL SPREAD...THOUGH THE 12Z SUITE HAS SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO THE
1215WEST.  THE OFFICIAL TRACK FORECAST IS A BLEND BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS
1216ADVISORY AND THE MODEL CONSENSUS WITH MORE WEIGHT ON THE LATTER.
1217
1218BAROCLINIC FORCING SHOULD FURTHER INTENSIFY NOEL AS AN EXTRATROPICAL
1219CYCLONE AS IT ACCELERATES TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST.  ALL OF THE
1220GLOBAL MODELS BOTH DEEPEN THE CYCLONE AND EXPAND THE HIGH WIND
1221AREAS.  THE INTENSITY AND SIZE FORECASTS ARE BASED UPON THE
1222CONSENSUS OF THE GLOBAL MODELS.
1223
1224FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
1225
1226INITIAL      02/2100Z 31.4N  72.4W    70 KT...BECOMING EXTRATROPICAL
1227 12HR VT     03/0600Z 34.5N  71.4W    70 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1228 24HR VT     03/1800Z 39.4N  69.3W    75 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1229 36HR VT     04/0600Z 44.7N  65.7W    80 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1230 48HR VT     04/1800Z 50.6N  61.1W    65 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1231 72HR VT     05/1800Z 61.0N  52.0W    60 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1232 96HR VT     06/1800Z 68.0N  46.0W    30 KT...EXTRATROPICAL
1233120HR VT     07/1800Z...DISSIPATED
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1236FORECASTER LANDSEA/FRANKLIN
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